Hawkeye RA-R Prices
 

How much are Hawkeye RA-R's really worth? I have seen a couple for sale for over 30k! Correct me if i am wrong but are were they not about 20k when they were sold in Japan? It seems like an awful lot of money for an Impreza.

I am considering going for one but 32K a PCM seems like an awful lot of money!

Why are they worth so much more than the normal RA?

They are very rare and the best track focused car of the last generation of saloon Imprezas. They are not worth £30k+ IMHO though. Give it a year or two and they will be a more reasonable £20-25k.

Personally, if I had that kind of wedge I would be looking at an S204.

To put it into perspective my Subaru mechanic offered me a Toshi Arai (sp) RA-R for £23k on the road. There are a lot of importers out there that like to make a quick buck.

I did not have the cash to accept the offer, but another man did. I've seen the car, last time it was in for 4 new driveshafts as the owner had put on super sticky tyres and then went full bore on a high grip surface. All 4 driveshafts snapped like carrots.

Was that for a car with delivery milage? What kind of money would we be looking at for a car with 5000 miles?

That's not an RA-R and the reg istration process is different to a normal spec c which adds to the cost. :)

Immy

Ok, but if the cars are about 20k in Japan it still cant cost 10k to bring the car over and register it can it? I understand that whoever brings the car over is entitled to make a bit of money on it - 2k profit seems fair for the hassle - we all have to make a living but 12k markup seems a lot. Can somebody clarify this :)

Why not speak direct to an importer and ask how much for them to source that model for you?

PCM are an importers

18k new in japan, then you have the model report, tax, shipping, esva, it all adds up, your looking at nearly 30k there.

Tony:)

shipping is about 1000, sva is a couple of hundred! Can other reports etc really add up to 10k? I know i keep pushing this point but 10k is a big difference :)

People have to make a living I suppose. Probably costs Subaru a couple of grand to make them yet they sell em for £18k.

Import it yourself?

Not forgetting import duty, VAT, conversion to meet SVA, valet, radio......
There was a nice little book on grey importing several years ago, which worked out that buying an 18k (in japan) car from an import dealership would cost you £28k here with about £2k of that as profit to the dealer.

Nick

Car cost £20k never has been 18k not even with the good exchange rate.
Vat costoms and excise £3500 agent fee £500 shipping fee £500 sva test fee £200 speedo chip £50 fog light £5 fuel neck £10 labour cat 1 alarm £300
Transportation from docks to your home/garage £200 plus petrol taking car to and from test station £50.

Sorry forgot to add £300 for tracker and £450 road tax and reg fee.

Just call it £26,250 as they never pass first time.

O yeh model report £25,000 ;)

Immy

Once UK taxes etc are added on plus some profit for the importer then £20k to £30k seems reasonable.

TX.

Why not buy one direct from Japan yourself then :smug:

TX.

Agreed.

That's the one I'd go for too. :thumb:

^^ PCM has at least one S204 for sale :thumb:

TX.

why would people go for an S204 over a RA-R? Whats the difference in the cars apart from the carbon bucket seats in the S204?

Some people prefer different things from a car, the S204 is more refined, if you call it that, the RA-R may be too hard core. I'd go for the RA-R personally.

does the s204 not have the same suspension components as the RA-R? It looks like it has the same pink sti components, just the brakes, seats and wheels seem different. So how is the S204 more refined?

Suspension set up is different , S204 is the best car i have driven for handling on uk roads a,b and daily driving.

I would only have an ra-r for weekend use or trackdays.

The damping levels will be slightly less harsh for a start. Plus the S204 is based on a standard STI, so as such it will still have all sound deadening (in fact I read somewhere that the S204 has slightly more sound deadening), thicker windows etc etc so things like exhaust noise and road/tyre noise will be kept at more acceptible levels.

S204 has thicker carpets etc ;) Bit like how Audi would build a STi :)

TX.

Yep. The 'S' series cars are STI's equivalent of a BMW 'M' car or an Audi 'RS'. They have performance but also refinement that allows everyday use for someone who isn't looking for all out hardcore car.

^^ How long til the RA-R arrives?

TX.

I've got it.;)

Will start a thread soon on my overall impression of it, but so far I will say that it is a step up on my RA, and that was something special.

lOOking forward to reading that.

Saw MrRA last night coooooooooooooooool car. White with white alloys.

Tissues please nurse!