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unclebuck 24 May 2008 03:40 PM

Crisis-hit Brown told to scrap car tax rises
 

Gordon Brown is being urged by ministers to scrap rises in car taxes and petrol duty as he struggles to regain popularity after a humiliating by-election defeat.

The new car taxes have proved so unpopular that one Labour MP described them as "a poll tax on wheels".
Gordon Brown: Crisis-hit Prime Minister told to scrap car tax rises, after loss of Labour seat of Crewe - Telegraph

Time to stop 'listening' Brown and start acting. Go on - I dare you.. do something to help for once in your useless life. :lol1:

Don't forget to sign the petition....

Telegraph campaign: Fair deal for car drivers - Telegraph

fatherpierre 24 May 2008 03:45 PM

He'll give (maybe) with one hand, and take away with the other.

SlimJ_2005 24 May 2008 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by fatherpierre (Post 7894036)
He'll give (maybe) with one hand, and take away with the other.

Oooh, so you're saying that he may take the benefits away from the great unwashed / immigrants so he can give something back to the working class citizen???

;)

AndyC_772 24 May 2008 06:20 PM

Better than taking with one hand and NOT giving something back with the other...

Ringpeas 24 May 2008 06:21 PM

A quote from the BBC news site

Austin Mitchell, Labour MP for Grimsby, told BBC Radio 4 that there was no point in changing leader, but Mr Brown must learn to listen more.

"We've never actually listened and to be fair, Gordon hasn't listened to us," he said.

"Well, now we've got to listen and we've got to find out what's wrong and do something about it."

Labour MP Phyllis Starkey said: "I certainly don't think that if we revert into an internal party dispute that we're going to increase our standing with the electorate.

"We need to be concentrating on the job at hand."



So they admit they are not listening to us, and the PM is not listening to them.
Is there any wonder they are unpopular :freak3:

Luminous 24 May 2008 08:51 PM

To be honest I hope he does not reduce the car tax in anyway. In fact, I would love to see him go ahead with the rises that are planned.

It would create such a stir that it may actually become a mainstream election issue. An issue that will be so large that other parties actually want to offer a proper real alternative to "green taxes".

At the moment although its a festering issue with many people, its still not the major election debate I would like it to be. We need a kick back that is way way bigger than the fuel blockage that we had a few years ago. That made enough of an issue of these things for some action to be taken....however all the tax rises were simply deferred. We really need something more than this to have a proper positive effect.

Other countries manage to have a fairer tax system that does not penalise the motorist as a cash cow to pay for everyone else in the country. OK, the US economy is not the best right at this second, but overall they do incredibly well. They manage a tax system that works, but is not all about taxing aspirations.

unclebuck 25 May 2008 11:31 AM

Good to see that the Brown Broadcasting Corporation are on message this morning:

BBC NEWS | Politics | Big names back beleaguered Brown

:lol: They really are rubbish.

Meanwhile, back in the real world:

David Miliband is ready to save new Labour - Times Online

Surely they don't seriously believe that little squirt Miliband could 'save' them?? :lol1: This just gets better by the day.

unclebuck 25 May 2008 11:46 AM

The Tories threatened last night to push for a snap election if Labour tries to change their leader again without going to the country. 'It would be quite absurd for Labour MPs to think they can foist one unelected prime minister after another on the country,' said frontbencher Chris Grayling.

Quite right too. We could be rid of them sooner then we think.

Labour chiefs tell Brown: appoint a leader-in-waiting | Politics | The Observer

Leslie 26 May 2008 10:57 AM

Seems like a good time for the Queen to dissolve Parliament and go for an election, as she has the power to do. Can't see Mr Millimetre doing any good and I suspect that his party thinks the same way.

Les

bluenosewrx 26 May 2008 11:17 AM

Surely a trick is being missed here, any of the other parties just need to say that they would cut fuel tax by say, 10p and stop the extra road tax and Hey presto, election won!!!!!

Well thats what i think or am i being nieve????

Mac

AndyC_772 26 May 2008 11:19 AM

Trouble is, that would be expensive - they'd have to make up the difference somewhere.

Sadly putting up income tax - about the only tax we have that's actually related to ability to pay - seems taboo for some reason, probably because it's transparent and fair enough that the ignorant masses can actually understand it :mad:

pimmo2000 26 May 2008 11:52 AM

Interesting read ...

f1_fan 26 May 2008 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Luminous (Post 7894520)
It would create such a stir that it may actually become a mainstream election issue. An issue that will be so large that other parties actually want to offer a proper real alternative to "green taxes".

Seeing as Cameron's only pledge so far seems to be more green taxes I shan't be holding my breath.

Norman Dog 26 May 2008 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by unclebuck (Post 7895342)

Surely they don't seriously believe that little squirt Miliband could 'save' them?? :lol1: This just gets better by the day.

If a dick like Cameron can save the Tories, anythings possible surely...

warrenm2 26 May 2008 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by AndyC_772 (Post 7897194)
Trouble is, that would be expensive - they'd have to make up the difference somewhere.

Not at all - it would put the fuel revenue income back to what it was about 2 months ago, and the VED hasnt takebn effect, so it would be pledging to keep things as they are

Youve fallen into the NL trap there

Rudolph Hooker 26 May 2008 02:47 PM

Drivers are voters too.....


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