Proof class A's are not bad for you - LSD inventor takes his last trip, dies aged 102
Swiss discoverer of LSD dies - Yahoo! News UK
well he made it to the grand old age of 102 so it must be OK then. I wonder if he knows he is dead, or thinks he is still tripping - assuming an afterlife that is but that is another debate. |
It's proably folklore but I heard on his 'bad trip' that he inadvertently consumed 500 x what would be considered a normal dose. Imagine that!
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You cant OD on LSD. It's simply a trigger drug. You can flip out np, but the amount consumed wont matter.
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not forgetting the flash backs you can have after taking LSD
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Originally Posted by _RIP_
(Post 7843809)
You cant OD on LSD. It's simply a trigger drug. You can flip out np, but the amount consumed wont matter.
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Originally Posted by _RIP_
(Post 7843809)
You cant OD on LSD. It's simply a trigger drug. You can flip out np, but the amount consumed wont matter.
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the only way LSD will effect your health is if it makes you jump out the bedroom window!
flashbacks?? havnt heard of them for ages! its all a load of bollox if you ask me! not that im heavy into LSD but weve done a few and not a flashback as yet! still, its somthing to look forward too :) |
ah 10 kg might give the old ticker somthing to deal with LOL!
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Originally Posted by RUDDY
(Post 7843834)
ah 10 kg might give the old ticker somthing to deal with LOL!
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Originally Posted by RUDDY
(Post 7843832)
the only way LSD will effect your health is if it makes you jump out the bedroom window!
flashbacks?? havnt heard of them for ages! its all a load of bollox if you ask me! not that im heavy into LSD but weve done a few and not a flashback as yet! still, its somthing to look forward too :) |
Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
(Post 7843825)
so if you consumed 10kg of it, it wouldnt matter:wonder:
OD usually refers to an amount that causes harmful physiological effects not psychological. I've not heard of anyone assessing lethal dose for LSD as it shows effectiveness at such low blood concentrations. |
Originally Posted by bootsy
(Post 7843845)
nor have i.but i know people who have had flash backs and still do
I personally think flashbacks are misinterpreted visual or aural disturbances which were present in the individual before they ever took LSD but when they occur once the user has ever experienced the durg, then LSD gets the blame. |
I've seen someone have a flashback. Quite a nasty experience for him and certainly not "put on"
Didn't like it myself so only had a few "trips". He did much more than I. |
a mate took them for years and has had 4 or 5 flash backs.one that i see myself it was just like he was still tripping.but as i pretty sure he hadn't taken anything as we had all given up ages ago.a lad i went to school with who was well know for taken LSD has been comited for his own good(about 8 year so far).
but i'll agree there could easy be some unknown mental problem there in the first place.he was a known space cadet |
What a stupid thing for you to say.
The LD50 (dose at which 50% of administrations are fatal) of LSD is approximately 55mg/KG in mice. Assuming that the human body is reasonably similar in metabolism, that means that in order to kill an average human weighing 70KG (~155lb), they would have to ingest 3,850mg of LSD to die half of the time. LSD is -the- most potent psychoactive currently known, and the psychotropic threshold is about 35-70ug (micrograms). Street doses are around 100ug. A subject would have to ingest 38,500 street doses of unadulterated LSD* to die half of the time. If street prices are $5 per hit (conservative), it would cost $192,500 to obtain this much LSD. Can you die from LSD poisoning? Yes, but it has yet to be documented in a human. Can you die from self-injury or recklessness while out of your mind on LSD? Absolutely, it happens all the time. * LSD is often mixed with amphetamine derivatives, methamphetamine, caffeine, phencyclidine, pseudoephedrine, all of which are cardiotoxic and will kill you thousands of times faster than LSD itself, which is a remarkably safe drug, systemically.
Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
(Post 7843829)
What a stupid thing to say!
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I have never had a flash back from taking lsd 15 years ago and i took alot:freak3:
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Originally Posted by *Jamie*
(Post 7843950)
I have never had a flash back from taking lsd 15 years ago and i took alot:freak3:
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No but i did see ww3 in a carport which was nice:freak3:
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Originally Posted by RUDDY
(Post 7843832)
the only way LSD will effect your health is if it makes you jump out the bedroom window!
flashbacks?? havnt heard of them for ages! its all a load of bollox if you ask me! not that im heavy into LSD but weve done a few and not a flashback as yet! still, its somthing to look forward too :) wonder why i had some flashbacks ? |
LSD is often mixed with amphetamine derivatives, methamphetamine, caffeine, phencyclidine, pseudoephedrine No it isn't. M |
Originally Posted by _Meridian_
(Post 7844063)
No it isn't.
M |
Agreed, Meridian is confusing mixed with cut. Although LSD is sometimes cut with lysergamides like dob, ald, LSD-25, doi, and others shi*e sold as tabs. Plus crap like bromo sold as blotters etc.
Anyhow, this makes no difference to the OD debate. So, care to comment on OD'ing with LCD?
Originally Posted by _Meridian_
(Post 7844063)
No it isn't.
M |
Originally Posted by _RIP_
(Post 7844120)
Agreed, although it's sometimes cut with lysergamides like dob, ald, LSD-25, doi, and others shi*e sold as tabs. Plus crap like bromo sold as blotters etc.
Anyhow, this makes no difference to the OD debate. So, care to comment on OD'ing with LCD? I have an LCD, watch it a fair bit, how will i know when i have OD'd and will i need to move onto a plasma or crt?;) |
But Paul, you were once a mod, hence you are far too spaced out to comment anyhow :D
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
(Post 7844126)
I have an LCD, watch it a fair bit, how will i know when i have OD'd and will i need to move onto a plasma or crt?;)
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Originally Posted by _RIP_
(Post 7844120)
Agreed, Meridian is confusing mixed with cut. Although LSD is sometimes cut with lysergamides like dob, ald, LSD-25, doi, and others shi*e sold as tabs. Plus crap like bromo sold as blotters etc.
Anyhow, this makes no difference to the OD debate. So, care to comment on OD'ing with LCD? |
Originally Posted by bootsy
(Post 7844137)
when you've watched soaps/reality tv all night:lol1:
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Originally Posted by bootsy
(Post 7844118)
i think you will find people who take LSD could/have take it with other drugs.or do you mean chemically mix it as in "cut it with":wonder:
As for overdosing, I'm not a pharmacologist so I have no idea. I could read up in Clarke though I guess... M |
Originally Posted by _RIP_
(Post 7844120)
Agreed, Meridian is confusing mixed with cut. Although LSD is sometimes cut with lysergamides like dob, ald, LSD-25, doi, and others shi*e sold as tabs. Plus crap like bromo sold as blotters etc.
To make slightly clearer - I've never heard of LSD ever being cut with anything except synthesis by-products like lysergic acid. And LSD-25 is the famous LSD (more correctly called lysergamide anyway). And DOB and DOI are phenethylamines, not lysergides. I don't even know what ald is - care to give it a proper name? M |
You cant cut lsd unless you inject the sh1t!
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