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PeteBrant 18 March 2008 04:05 PM

Inflation hits 2.5%
 
BBC NEWS | Business | UK consumer inflation hits 2.5%


I liked this bit


=BBC]
But core inflation, which excludes oil and food, fell to 1.2% in February, the lowest level since August 2006.

So if you don't need to eat, or need warmth, and go everywhere by bike, then life is good :D

r32 18 March 2008 04:17 PM

I know its costing us a lot more each week ........ its got to be more than that. Another round of figure fiddling will be done by HM Government

SlimJ_2005 18 March 2008 04:19 PM

If you took things out that aren't a necessity, such as computers and DVD player which fall naturally due to progression in technology, I think the real figures would be somewhere in the region of 5-10%.

PeteBrant 18 March 2008 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by SlimJ_2005 (Post 7741266)
If you took things out that aren't a necessity, such as computers and DVD player which fall naturally due to progression in technology, I think the real figures would be somewhere in the region of 5-10%.

It probably wouldnt be far off.

Mortgage/Rent
Food
Fuel (Heating and travel to/from work)
Council tax
Clothing


THese are your absolute bare essentials to live - I.e. you do not have an option whether you pay them or not, And interestingly, those items are probably subject to the highest inflation at present.

stilover 18 March 2008 05:56 PM

I'm sure the government are looking at deleting whatever it takes to bring inflation back to 2.2%

alcazar 18 March 2008 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by PeteBrant (Post 7741282)
It probably wouldnt be far off.

Mortgage/Rent
Food
Fuel (Heating and travel to/from work)
Council tax
Clothing


THese are your absolute bare essentials to live - I.e. you do not have an option whether you pay them or not, And interestingly, those items are probably subject to the highest inflation at present.

You forgot water bills, both of mine went up 8%:( Also leccy, it's gone up a lot too.

An article in the paper yesterday stated that less than 2% of the population now believe the government's inflation figure, and asked how long they can keep on referring to cheaply imported DVDs?

I reckon that lots more people now look twice at ANYTHING this government says.......but what's the alternative? Do we really want Dave the Chameleon?

Alcazar

PeteBrant 18 March 2008 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 7741551)
You forgot water bills, both of mine went up 8%:( Also leccy, it's gone up a lot too.

An article in the paper yesterday stated that less than 2% of the population now believe the government's inflation figure, and asked how long they can keep on referring to cheaply imported DVDs?

I reckon that lots more people now look twice at ANYTHING this government says.......but what's the alternative? Do we really want Dave the Chameleon?

Alcazar

The CPI meaure is not that different from the old one, and the idea is that you meaure what people actually pay at the till rather than what the recommended retail price is.
The "old" headline inflation rate (RPI-X) has never included mortgage payments. You used to get the RPI-X followed by the RPI (the one that does include mortages) - Which is in effect what you get now - The headline rate (CPI) followed by the RPI.


Of course it's all smoke and mirrors, and it has always been the same no matter what party is in.

ScoTTyB 18 March 2008 06:15 PM

Nice to see they have just added memory sticks to the basket lol. If I could think of one thing whose price falls like a stone it would be those!

chocolate_o_brian 18 March 2008 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 7741551)
You forgot water bills, both of mine went up 8%:( Also leccy, it's gone up a lot too.

An article in the paper yesterday stated that less than 2% of the population now believe the government's inflation figure, and asked how long they can keep on referring to cheaply imported DVDs?

I reckon that lots more people now look twice at ANYTHING this government says.......but what's the alternative? Do we really want Dave the Chameleon?

Alcazar

would that 2% be pslewis different alias accounts on here then;)

lozgti 20 March 2008 09:19 AM

I'msure it was the National office for Statistics or something that said'60% of people don't believe government figures'

Why does the government even bother publishing figures.

I don't believe one word of what they say and I look forward to finding out who actually does

Oops,just read the above post.98% don't believe then.Excellent:D UK as not as daft as the govt thinks

PeteBrant 20 March 2008 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by lozgti (Post 7745684)
I'msure it was the National office for Statistics or something that said'60% of people don't believe government figures'

Why does the government even bother publishing figures.

I don't believe one word of what they say and I look forward to finding out who actually does

Oops,just read the above post.98% don't believe then.Excellent:D UK as not as daft as the govt thinks

The figures are accurate. CPI is2.5%.

I have no problem beleiving the figures the ONS publish, you just need to know what the figures represent.

Dracoro 20 March 2008 11:49 AM

At the end of the day, who cares about these "figures". The FACT of the matter is the essentials in life have all risen considerably and this WILL damage consumer spending power (i.e. they can't afford the new TV, won't buy the new car this year etc.) which in turn WILL damage the general economy. job losses will result etc.

So while the economy is suffering and everyone knows itthe govt. will have their head in the sand whilst pointing to some meaningless stats.

unclebuck 20 March 2008 12:03 PM

They know it too.

They just lie about it and manipulate their meaningless figures to provide the 'proof'.

Prasius 20 March 2008 12:13 PM

So.. what we've worked out from this is that Politicians are a bunch of lying gits?

;)

The whole inflation figure thing has been a work of someones imagination for the last 3 or 4 years at least - they must pay someone to just pull a random figure out of the air that might just sound good to all the stupid little people ;)

FlightMan 20 March 2008 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by Prasius (Post 7746107)
So.. what we've worked out from this is that Politicians are a bunch of lying gits?

;)

The whole inflation figure thing has been a work of someones imagination for the last 3 or 4 years at least - they must pay someone to just pull a random figure out of the air that might just sound good to all the stupid little people ;)

So that would be less than 2% of the population then? ;)

PeteBrant 20 March 2008 12:38 PM

So when the bank of England base thier insterest rate decisions partially on the official inflation figure, they are "stupid little people"?

r32 20 March 2008 12:43 PM

Its all a big fiddle the RPI is more representative than the CPI. I just looked through the list. Fiddle, fiddle ,fiddle.............etc

Prasius 20 March 2008 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by PeteBrant (Post 7746181)
So when the bank of England base thier insterest rate decisions partially on the official inflation figure, they are "stupid little people"?

No idea.. given the statistics being thrown around this thread though, they must make up a good fraction of the 2% who believe the official government figures ;)

PeteBrant 20 March 2008 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by r32 (Post 7746188)
Its all a big fiddle the RPI is more representative than the CPI

Course it is. But that doesn tmake the CPI a "lie"

fast bloke 21 March 2008 01:03 AM

None of the inflation figures are representative of true inflation, but if you use them as a comparison figure so you can work out if inflation is increasing or decreasing, then you won't go far wrong. Just don't use CPI to negotiate your salalry increase. Personal inflation for 90% of the population is well above 10%. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, as it might help knock the borrow and spend mentality on the head. Most people waken up, want to be warm and have some food, then drive to work, be warm, do some work and have some more food, drive home, be warm and have some food. None of this really needs a memory stick or a cheap DVD, so none of the figures are representative of the cost of surviving. No doubt next months figures will include HBOS shares, pegging inflation back to 0.2% :lol:


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