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kilo_4que 11 December 2007 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by mneame (Post 7476351)
sorting now.

top man

kilo_4que 13 December 2007 11:30 AM

Any luck Matt

V4JDMSTi 13 December 2007 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by kilo_4que (Post 7481665)
Any luck Matt

All sorted between Mark and I. If you call him on 01782 744115 you'll be able to arrange a lance and ssf.

Cheers,

Matt.

kilo_4que 13 December 2007 11:43 AM

Just Spoken to Mark, All sorted finally lol

V4JDMSTi 13 December 2007 11:46 AM

:thumb: enjoy your foam.

kilo_4que 13 December 2007 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by mneame (Post 7481697)
:thumb: enjoy your foam.

:lol1: will do

V4JDMSTi 13 December 2007 11:54 AM

no having foam parties with the ladies until the weather warms up. it's not fair on them ;)

kilo_4que 13 December 2007 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by mneame (Post 7481721)
no having foam parties with the ladies until the weather warms up. it's not fair on them ;)

O im sure they dont mind :D

TimH 13 December 2007 12:10 PM

:luxhello:Really glad this is sorted now!

I've been indulging in foam-play for a good few weeks now :D

V4JDMSTi 13 December 2007 12:15 PM

what mix are you using in the lance? i find that an equal mix of megs hyper wash with the ssf leaves a cracking thick layer on there. leave it to run off for a good 10 - 15 mins.

TimH 13 December 2007 12:43 PM

I started with about 8:1 SSF:water, but that ran off rather quickly. The last two washes have been about 4:1 which isn't too bad but still runs off rather quickly.

Next wash I'm going to try neat - car is filthy as I've not had a chance to wash it for 3 weeks :eek:, and next wash after that I'll try it with some Poorboys slick-n-suds (fink thats what its called since that's what I've got at the mo.

I also find that the reservoir bottle is emptied rather quickly with my Karcher (can't remember the model number, but it's not the base/cheapo model, so is probably higher pressure or something) and the first time I managed to start rinsing the foam off before I realised the bottle was empty :o

kilo_4que 13 December 2007 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by tim hardisty (Post 7481875)
I started with about 8:1 SSF:water, but that ran off rather quickly. The last two washes have been about 4:1 which isn't too bad but still runs off rather quickly.

Next wash I'm going to try neat - car is filthy as I've not had a chance to wash it for 3 weeks :eek:, and next wash after that I'll try it with some Poorboys slick-n-suds (fink thats what its called since that's what I've got at the mo.

I also find that the reservoir bottle is emptied rather quickly with my Karcher (can't remember the model number, but it's not the base/cheapo model, so is probably higher pressure or something) and the first time I managed to start rinsing the foam off before I realised the bottle was empty :o

Dayum this is what ive been dreading as my pressure washer is rather powerful and sucks the daylights out of the hose pipe lol

Btw guys before Autobrite send me out my lance and SSF what else shall i get from them whilst im at it. I practically have jack all left in my bank of car goodies as my mum decided it was a good idea to throw away loads of bottles of car wash, polishs and the works lol

V4JDMSTi 13 December 2007 01:11 PM

kilo 4que - all depends on your budget, what you expect from the products etc?

Tim - try having a play with the mixture screw and the nozzle itself. you'll get it set up eventually. adding the super slick and suds will make it cling a bit longer. remember though, the more wax / sealant you have on the car the faster it will run off anyway. oh and warm water will give you a better foam too.

kilo_4que 13 December 2007 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by mneame (Post 7481969)
kilo 4que - all depends on your budget, what you expect from the products etc?

Tim - try having a play with the mixture screw and the nozzle itself. you'll get it set up eventually. adding the super slick and suds will make it cling a bit longer. remember though, the more wax / sealant you have on the car the faster it will run off anyway. oh and warm water will give you a better foam too.

Matt basically i just want to avoid swirls on my car and like to keep the car clean at all times. Thats the primary objective.

Regarding polishes etc I rather clueless. Ive only ever used Turtle Wax lol and Auto Glym once

kilo_4que 13 December 2007 02:34 PM

Matt another question mate. How comes yourself and the guys at Polished Bliss do not mention Autoglym as a list of recommended products. Are Meguiars better?

V4JDMSTi 13 December 2007 02:42 PM

as a starter kit i'd go for the following:

good lambswool wash mit x 1 (ideally x 2 though, 1 for upper half of car 1 for lower)
2 x buckets,
2 x grit guards for buckets,
microfibre drying towel - i like the poorboys or mothers ones. a lot of people recommend sonus der wonder towels,
microfibre applicator for applying wax / acrylic lsp,
2 x plush microfibre cloths for buffing off wax / acrylic residue.

you can stick the ssf in the bucket to use to wash the car with as well as applying in the foam lance.

this kit will make a huge improvement to avoiding swirls. then it's down to technique. all straight lines no round and round in circles. have a look at the pb guide at the top of the forum for the best way to wash the car.

then i'd look at getting a polish that will work well by hand. if you're not that up on machine polishing stick to working by hand. if you want to go at it with a machine get a scrap panel from the breakers and play with that before going at it with your car. again the pb guides at the top of the forum are great.

what colour is your car? and what finish do you want on the car? waxes will give a warm wet look and acrylics will give a cold, hard, sharp look. you can combine both by applying the acrylic first and then the wax over the top.

not a fan of autoglym. not saying that their products aren't any good but i think that there are products out there that are better for the same money. like poorboys for example.

megs is good stuff although again i do prefer poorboys and similar brands.

kilo_4que 13 December 2007 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by mneame (Post 7482152)
as a starter kit i'd go for the following:

good lambswool wash mit x 1 (ideally x 2 though, 1 for upper half of car 1 for lower)
2 x buckets,
2 x grit guards for buckets,
microfibre drying towel - i like the poorboys or mothers ones. a lot of people recommend sonus der wonder towels,
microfibre applicator for applying wax / acrylic lsp,
2 x plush microfibre cloths for buffing off wax / acrylic residue.

you can stick the ssf in the bucket to use to wash the car with as well as applying in the foam lance.

this kit will make a huge improvement to avoiding swirls. then it's down to technique. all straight lines no round and round in circles. have a look at the pb guide at the top of the forum for the best way to wash the car.

then i'd look at getting a polish that will work well by hand. if you're not that up on machine polishing stick to working by hand. if you want to go at it with a machine get a scrap panel from the breakers and play with that before going at it with your car. again the pb guides at the top of the forum are great.

what colour is your car? and what finish do you want on the car? waxes will give a warm wet look and acrylics will give a cold, hard, sharp look. you can combine both by applying the acrylic first and then the wax over the top.

not a fan of autoglym. not saying that their products aren't any good but i think that there are products out there that are better for the same money. like poorboys for example.

megs is good stuff although again i do prefer poorboys and similar brands.

Right Matt, basically since it is a starter kit i want to get together I want to keep initial costs low until March when we take delviery of our new Q7.

Now at the moment i am playing around with a white new shape Vauxhall Corsa which is our companies delivery van. however the Q7 will be Phantom Black. I have always liked the really shiny wet look on cars and have wondered how people achieve such results.

I tend to use cheap shampoos you know them big gallon things worth £4 lol

So far the wash mitts are looking expensive, are there any cheaper wash mitts out there compared to megs. Also what shampoo would you recommend. Bare in mind this is for the Corsa

V4JDMSTi 13 December 2007 03:03 PM

as it's the works van i'd take it down the local kosovan wash for a fiver lol.

chances are any cheap shampoo is going strip the protection product that you use. which is fine when you want to clear off the old product and start afresh.

avoid all in one shampoo and wax products as they tend to streak and look pants imo. imo i'd just use the ssf that you'll get with the lance. at about a tenner for a gallon it's well worth it. or get hold of the megs hyper wash for about £13 a gallon. would def recommend the megs for when you get the q7.

mit wise, halfrauds do some that are ok and are about half the cost of the megs ones. but the megs ones really are good, and cheap at about £8.

for the q7 i'd be tempted to get the good quality wash mits. wax wise treat yourself to something like dodo purple haze, about £36 a pot, or a zymol carbon starter kit around the £60 mark. if you still want a budget wax then poorboys natty's blue at about £12 a tub is superb value for money. tbh it's hard to be imo unless you spend serious money. layer and spit shine it and you'll get cracking results.

kilo_4que 13 December 2007 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by mneame (Post 7482189)
as it's the works van i'd take it down the local kosovan wash for a fiver lol.

chances are any cheap shampoo is going strip the protection product that you use. which is fine when you want to clear off the old product and start afresh.

avoid all in one shampoo and wax products as they tend to streak and look pants imo. imo i'd just use the ssf that you'll get with the lance. at about a tenner for a gallon it's well worth it. or get hold of the megs hyper wash for about £13 a gallon. would def recommend the megs for when you get the q7.

mit wise, halfrauds do some that are ok and are about half the cost of the megs ones. but the megs ones really are good, and cheap at about £8.

for the q7 i'd be tempted to get the good quality wash mits. wax wise treat yourself to something like dodo purple haze, about £36 a pot, or a zymol carbon starter kit around the £60 mark. if you still want a budget wax then poorboys natty's blue at about £12 a tub is superb value for money. tbh it's hard to be imo unless you spend serious money. layer and spit shine it and you'll get cracking results.

O with the Q7 it should be "no expenses spared" sort of thing. Im wanting to first practice on the Corsa and do remember its not the "works" van, its mine for my company lol. So basically its 9k+ out of my pocket :D

O also its only 3 weeks old ;)

V4JDMSTi 13 December 2007 04:01 PM

that makes it different then as it's yours.

i'd go for a mix of the ssf and megs hyper wash for the wash process. the mits will last a year so if you bought one now and then another one when you get the q7 you can keep the first one for the van or use the older one for the wheels.

drying towels will last yonks if you look after them. same with micofibre cloths.

the only difference should be the lsp. as the van is white i'd go for an acrylic. the jeffs stuff from pb is good. not sure what mark has available. go for waxes with the q7. then as you'd already have the acrylic, you could put a layer of that first on first and then wax over the top. ultimate protection and a cracking looking finish for the q7.

kilo_4que 13 December 2007 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by mneame (Post 7482342)
that makes it different then as it's yours.

i'd go for a mix of the ssf and megs hyper wash for the wash process. the mits will last a year so if you bought one now and then another one when you get the q7 you can keep the first one for the van or use the older one for the wheels.

drying towels will last yonks if you look after them. same with micofibre cloths.

the only difference should be the lsp. as the van is white i'd go for an acrylic. the jeffs stuff from pb is good. not sure what mark has available. go for waxes with the q7. then as you'd already have the acrylic, you could put a layer of that first on first and then wax over the top. ultimate protection and a cracking looking finish for the q7.

alos regarding the hyper wash, where are you getting it from for 13 pounds a gallon. Im sure its more like 21 pound

V4JDMSTi 13 December 2007 04:29 PM

sorry getting my prices mixed up. super degreaser is about £13 a gallon. you're right the hyper is up in the 20's. well worth it though. can be cut 400 - 1 so in effect you're getting 400 us gallons of cleaning wash for that 20 odd quid.


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