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340BHP-WRX 23 July 2007 07:23 PM

Law regarding no water at work ?
 
Anyone know what the law is regarding working without running water ?

At work in Tewkesbury today we had some water from the taps but it looks like we won't have any tomorrow as i'm at home in Cheltenham now and the water has pretty much stopped :mad:

My boss said we will be expected at work even if we have no water,they will fill buckets for flushing the toilet with :wonder:

Everyone I know has said it's illegal to make people work without running water,is this true ?

_Meridian_ 23 July 2007 07:35 PM

From the HSE site:



The Provision of Toilets, Wash-Hand Basins, Shower and Washing Facilities

You must provide:

* clean well-ventilated toilets (separate for men and women unless each convenience has its own lockable door
* wash basins with hot and cold (or warm) running water
* showers for dirty work or emergencies
* soap and towels (or a hand drier)
* skin cleansers, with nail brushes where necessary
* barrier cream or skin conditioning cream where necessary
* special hygiene precautions where necessary, eg where food is handled or prepared.

Drinking Water

You must provide a clean drinking water supply with an upward drinking jet or suitable cups (marked if necessary to distinguish it from the non drinkable supply).


Try Google, it's great...


M

PaulC72 23 July 2007 07:44 PM

as above ;)

oobster 23 July 2007 07:50 PM

Comes under the Workplace (Health, Safety & Welfare) Regulations 1992 (if you want to get all clever and baffle him with regulations)

An adequate supply of wholesome drinking water, with an upward drinking jet or suitable cups, should be provided. Water should only be provided in refillable enclosed containers where it cannot be obtained directly from a mains supply. The containers should be refilled at least daily (unless they are chilled water dispensers where the containers are returned to the supplier for refilling). Bottled water/water dispensing systems may still be provided as a secondary source of drinking water.

Suitable and sufficient sanitary conveniences and washing facilities should be provided at readily accessible places. They and the rooms containing them should be kept clean and be adequately ventilated and lit. Washing facilities should have running hot and cold or warm water, soap and clean towels or other means of cleaning or drying. If required by the type of work, showers should also be provided. Men and women should have separate facilities unless each facility is in a separate room with a lockable door and is for use by only one person at a time.

rgv_stu 23 July 2007 09:30 PM

we seemed to have water all day today as there is a large water tank inside the building although im unsure wether we will be going in tomorrow. weve gotta ring in the morning to find out.

340BHP-WRX 23 July 2007 09:37 PM

So,if my boss provides buckets of water which they have stored up to flush the toilet with and bottles of drinking water,do I have to stay at work or not ?

rgv_stu 23 July 2007 09:39 PM

suppose so, it wouldnt supprise me if our lot went and got some porta loos for tomorrow!

Fuzz 23 July 2007 09:44 PM

FFS get a grip, no wonder this country is in such a **** state.
We're not all going to drop dead because we can't have a cup of tea at work..
or wash our hands.

rgv_stu 23 July 2007 09:50 PM

sorry but i need tea to work :D

oobster 23 July 2007 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by 340BHP-WRX (Post 7132092)
So,if my boss provides buckets of water which they have stored up to flush the toilet with and bottles of drinking water,do I have to stay at work or not ?

I would say - Yes. As long as there is some form of warm water for washing your hands I can't see how they are not complying with the law.

340BHP-WRX 23 July 2007 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by Fuzz (Post 7132115)
FFS get a grip, no wonder this country is in such a **** state.
We're not all going to drop dead because we can't have a cup of tea at work..
or wash our hands.

40 odd people using 1 toilet that can't be flushed properley :wonder:

Fuzz 23 July 2007 09:53 PM

Go use your initiative then an scoop up some of that rain water and chuck it down the bog.



Andy

OllyK 23 July 2007 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by _Meridian_ (Post 7131599)
From the HSE site:

Try Google, it's great...


M

Or as some prefer:
TGFYLB
:D

The Dogs B******s 23 July 2007 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by Fuzz (Post 7132115)
FFS get a grip, no wonder this country is in such a **** state.
We're not all going to drop dead because we can't have a cup of tea at work..
or wash our hands.

Totally agree, i work with a lad who hasn't had a bath/shower for years but he doesn't complain (we do though)

Fuzz 23 July 2007 09:54 PM

and I've just realised that's a health an safety law in itself !
40 odd people requires more than 1 toilet. :lol:


Andy

nik52wrx 23 July 2007 10:27 PM

Tea is fuel :thumb:



Originally Posted by rgv_stu (Post 7132141)
sorry but i need tea to work :D


Fuzz 23 July 2007 10:30 PM

Take a flask in then :razz:

:D

Andy

rgv_stu 23 July 2007 10:31 PM

no its not the same, fresh tea only ;)

_Meridian_ 23 July 2007 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by Fuzz (Post 7132115)
FFS get a grip, no wonder this country is in such a **** state.
We're not all going to drop dead because we can't have a cup of tea at work..
or wash our hands.



Actually there are quite a few jobs where people could drop dead if they couldn't wash their hands. Might be slow and painful, but it would still happen. There are a few where the staff need to constantly drink water for health reasons as well.


M

Fuzz 23 July 2007 10:55 PM

But in context... this isn't one of those times is it!

Off to a nice dry bed now... all be it a little dirty. :p
I'm sure I won't wake up dead tomorrow. ;)

Andy

340BHP-WRX 23 July 2007 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by _Meridian_ (Post 7132352)
Actually there are quite a few jobs where people could drop dead if they couldn't wash their hands. Might be slow and painful, but it would still happen. There are a few where the staff need to constantly drink water for health reasons as well.


M

I work with alot of dangerous chemicals and materials that could cause alot of problems if I couldn't wash my hands properley !

Leslie 24 July 2007 01:16 PM

I wonder how those people who go around saving others from disasters such as bombs hitting houses during the war or bad natural disasters manage to do anything when there are all these PC laws which have to be obeyed! How do they cope with all that worry about such things?

I remember when workers used to think about loyalty to their firms during such terrible occurrences too.

Les!

Matteeboy 24 July 2007 01:29 PM

How about the company who are probably struggling big time as it is?!

If one of our workers started pulling that kind of PC cr4p, they wouldn't last long.

340BHP-WRX 24 July 2007 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by Matteeboy (Post 7133557)
How about the company who are probably struggling big time as it is?!

If one of our workers started pulling that kind of PC cr4p, they wouldn't last long.

What about when people start getting ill because they can't wash their hands properley before eating etc ?

What kind of business do you run ?

First full day at work with no water,managed to get some water from the taps this morning before it stopped completely,saving that for flushing the toilets and washing hands. Went to Tewkesbury school where they were giving out free bottles of drinking water so all of us have enough water at the moment ;)

Matteeboy 24 July 2007 05:34 PM

My point is that your company is probably having a hard enough time as it is without people "refusing" to work.

Sure it might be a plan to grab a day or two off but why not just tell them that rather than pulling some H&S stunt.

Most of the country seems to be pulling together to help each other.

kingofturds 24 July 2007 05:40 PM

Blazing sunshine in Truro Matteboy chill :D

Jer 24 July 2007 07:44 PM

I hate employees with your attitude. It's too hot to work / it's to cold to work this is wrong thats wrong. Why don't you fill your boot with bottles of water so you can wash your hands or take a piss. Put yourself in your employees shoes instead of trying to get paid time of.

jjones 24 July 2007 07:48 PM

piss on your hands, kill two birds with one stone

Fuzz 24 July 2007 07:49 PM

:lol:

340BHP-WRX 24 July 2007 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Jer (Post 7134512)
I hate employees with your attitude. It's too hot to work / it's to cold to work this is wrong thats wrong. Why don't you fill your boot with bottles of water so you can wash your hands or take a piss. Put yourself in your employees shoes instead of trying to get paid time of.

I think you have all missed my point completely :Whatever_

I have been with the company over 11 years and have worked through floods,power cuts,heatwaves etc but it's never been as bad as this.

The reason I asked the question is because most people I know have been told by their employers not to go to work due to health and safety reasons with limited/no water supply. Some are on paid time off and some are not being paid.

I simply wanted to know what the law stated regarding working in this situation.

I myself have been out today collecting drinking water for members of staff and have setup water collection containers/boxes to collect rain water to use for the toilets.

Sorry if I came across as having an attitude :wonder:


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