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Schumacher and Hakkinen go head to head at Spa
YouTube - Mika Hakkinen vs Michael Schumacher - Spa Francorchamps
Never seen this from this angle before. :eek: :notworthy :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy :notworthy |
Dude, I wasn't expecting that at the end :D.
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That was a good pass, good old MS blocking the first attempt. :mad: Served him right losing the place like that :thumb:
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I grimaced whan I saw that at the beginning. Balls of steel.
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Originally Posted by Luminous
(Post 7125157)
That was a good pass, good old MS blocking the first attempt. :mad: Served him right losing the place like that :thumb:
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Remember watching that on tv live an it still looks awsome.
Possibly one of the best moves in F1 history. Shame Mika retired to leave the shoemaker free reign for such a long time. Nik. |
Originally Posted by Einstein RA
(Post 7125360)
It's called competitive motorsport, not an 'after you Claude' procession.
It also looked like he was actually trying to hide the lapped BAR from Mika :eek: aswell as get a slip stream, so when he quickly moved to the left Mika would have a face full of an F1 rear wing and gearbox, but fortunaltely Mika had already decided his move and pulled it off.:thumb: |
Originally Posted by nik52wrx
(Post 7125394)
Remember watching that on tv live an it still looks awsome.
Possibly one of the best moves in F1 history. Shame Mika retired to leave the shoemaker free reign for such a long time. Nik. He could have just said that too wind up his then current rivals tho' |
Those were the days. Can't watch a whole race these days :rolleyes:
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Yep, I was at that race too, not quite the same these days, even then it was starting to become almost a chore to watch
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Racing in F1 seems like a distant memory now. The best years that I watched saw classics like that race at Spa, the other at Spa when Coulthard tried to kill Schuey, then Schuey repaid the favour in the pits :lol1: Hill vs Schuey in the rain at Barcelona. Schuey in Portugal cleaning the track on one corner for 10 laps before spending 8 laps catching Hill back up, and then passing him 3 laps later. 21 laps for a single pass :cuckoo:
Modern F1 is pretty much... Start....Joe Boggs leads Pit 1....Joe comes in early, Fred Bloggs stays out 2 laps more, takes lead after his stop Pit 2....Fred still leads Joe, engines turned down and everyone can go home as we know the outcome now. :sleep: |
Originally Posted by corradoboy
(Post 7125527)
Racing in F1 seems like a distant memory now. The best years that I watched saw classics like that race at Spa, the other at Spa when Coulthard tried to kill Schuey, then Schuey repaid the favour in the pits :lol1: Hill vs Schuey in the rain at Barcelona. Schuey in Portugal cleaning the track on one corner for 10 laps before spending 8 laps catching Hill back up, and then passing him 3 laps later. 21 laps for a single pass :cuckoo:
Modern F1 is pretty much... Start....Joe Boggs leads Pit 1....Joe comes in early, Fred Bloggs stays out 2 laps more, takes lead after his stop Pit 2....Fred still leads Joe, engines turned down and everyone can go home as we know the outcome now. :sleep: |
Originally Posted by corradoboy
(Post 7125527)
Racing in F1 seems like a distant memory now. The best years that I watched saw classics like that race at Spa, the other at Spa when Coulthard tried to kill Schuey, then Schuey repaid the favour in the pits :lol1: Hill vs Schuey in the rain at Barcelona. Schuey in Portugal cleaning the track on one corner for 10 laps before spending 8 laps catching Hill back up, and then passing him 3 laps later. 21 laps for a single pass :cuckoo:
Modern F1 is pretty much... Start....Joe Boggs leads Pit 1....Joe comes in early, Fred Bloggs stays out 2 laps more, takes lead after his stop Pit 2....Fred still leads Joe, engines turned down and everyone can go home as we know the outcome now. :sleep: now if one team has the best car (mclaren)then theres no one to challenge:brickwall i loved watching schumacher, he will be a legend, as good as F1 will ever get :thumb: they changed the rules to stop him winning and drive him out :mad: i'm hoping kimi will start to do a few tricks, he likes the high life, partying , motorbikes and snowboarding, :luxhello: :luxhello: thats why he and mr dennis fell out, :thumb: |
There is quite an interesting Ferrari/McLaren fight at the moment - but I think McLaren are about to get a load of points docked... after their chief designers is found to have a 780 page Ferrari technical document at his house, I find it hard to see how the FIA won't take action!
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Originally Posted by 51st state
(Post 7125887)
and theres NO schuy to love or hate :( :mad:
now if one team has the best car (mclaren)then theres no one to challenge:brickwall i loved watching schumacher, he will be a legend, as good as F1 will ever get :thumb: they changed the rules to stop him winning and drive him out :mad: i'm hoping kimi will start to do a few tricks, he likes the high life, partying , motorbikes and snowboarding, :luxhello: :luxhello: thats why he and mr dennis fell out, :thumb: It was good to see Mika take Eau Rouge flat, that takes a bit of good driving. Les |
Originally Posted by corradoboy
(Post 7125527)
Racing in F1 seems like a distant memory now. The best years that I watched saw classics like that race at Spa, the other at Spa when Coulthard tried to kill Schuey, then Schuey repaid the favour in the pits :lol1: Hill vs Schuey in the rain at Barcelona. Schuey in Portugal cleaning the track on one corner for 10 laps before spending 8 laps catching Hill back up, and then passing him 3 laps later. 21 laps for a single pass :cuckoo:
Modern F1 is pretty much... Start....Joe Boggs leads Pit 1....Joe comes in early, Fred Bloggs stays out 2 laps more, takes lead after his stop Pit 2....Fred still leads Joe, engines turned down and everyone can go home as we know the outcome now. :sleep: Incidentally, the best car in F1 at the moment is Ferrari - it's a real testament to the skills of both Alonso and Hamilton that they are up there with them. This year has been fascinating and I reckon the second half of the season will see it get better. Don't also forget that thankfully Spa (the best circuit in the IMHO) is back on the calendar again. Great clip BTW |
When Schuey was at the top of his game he had Hakinnen, Hill, Villeneuve (briefly), Coulthard (occasionally, due to the car mainly) etc to keep him on his toes. As these guys faded noone stepped up to the ball for many years leaving Schuey to dominate. His combination of driving and team input creating the unbeatable package is the Holy Grail of F1, and yes it did get boring and predictable. The bar was set for the other teams to catch them, that is the game. The teams now all look more evenly competitive, but the regulations rob them and us of true racing. As a driver, to be told to turn your engine down when you're in any other place than 1st must smart.
If I were put in charge I'd ban traction control and launch control to make the drivers drive. I'd ban remote engine mapping and limit driver adjustability. Scrap the two race rule, but impose limits on maximum revs, power and torque to promote reliability to thus reduce costs. Slicks are a must to get some grip in low speed corners to encourage daring overtaking moves, but to reduce top speeds there could be gearing regulations. Aerodynamics need altering to reduce the effect on pursuing cars and again, help limit top speeds for safety. Clarkson once suggested they should gain or lose a point for each position gained or lost relative to their qualifying position, disregarding DNF's. That might get them challenging each other ! |
Originally Posted by corradoboy
(Post 7126852)
When Schuey was at the top of his game he had Hakinnen, Hill, Villeneuve (briefly), Coulthard (occasionally, due to the car mainly) etc to keep him on his toes. As these guys faded noone stepped up to the ball for many years leaving Schuey to dominate. His combination of driving and team input creating the unbeatable package is the Holy Grail of F1, and yes it did get boring and predictable. The bar was set for the other teams to catch them, that is the game. The teams now all look more evenly competitive, but the regulations rob them and us of true racing. As a driver, to be told to turn your engine down when you're in any other place than 1st must smart.
If I were put in charge I'd ban traction control and launch control to make the drivers drive. I'd ban remote engine mapping and limit driver adjustability. Scrap the two race rule, but impose limits on maximum revs, power and torque to promote reliability to thus reduce costs. Slicks are a must to get some grip in low speed corners to encourage daring overtaking moves, but to reduce top speeds there could be gearing regulations. Aerodynamics need altering to reduce the effect on pursuing cars and again, help limit top speeds for safety. Clarkson once suggested they should gain or lose a point for each position gained or lost relative to their qualifying position, disregarding DNF's. That might get them challenging each other ! Les |
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