Why can't new houses have high ceilings?
Or can they? Lots of people like period homes as they have (aswell as other things) high ceilings. Is there any reason why a new build can't have similar high ceilings to a Victorian/Edwardian property?
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
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Or can they? Lots of people like period homes as they have (aswell as other things) high ceilings. Is there any reason why a new build can't have similar high ceilings to a Victorian/Edwardian property?
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^ Agreed. For example, heating cost are very high in high ceiling properties. We lived in an old chapel a few years ago. I called it a cold chapel, as it always stayed cold, even after heating it on full blast:( Not sure about the planning permission business re. high ceilings :confused: Other than high ceiling issue, I am pleased that there will be some changes made in the law soon for conservatory and loft conversion. People may not have to get any planning permission for them in future :)
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Prolly something to do with new labour :D
FFS soon you wont be able to drive your own car to w*rk |
Heating costs/energy efficiency probably come into it.
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Cos it makes the walls longer :D
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Originally Posted by David Lock
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Cos it makes the walls longer :D
High ceilings are a nono because of many reasons. |
Obviously high ceilings mean higher costs (all other things being equal), but that is a matter of choice. It doesn't stop people buying period homes, in many areas inc mine they command a premium over similar sized newer ones.
What I'm trying to ask is, forget the cost but are there planning (maybe energy related) issues that prevent new builds having high ceilings? Ta |
it might also be something to do with plot sizes and allowable m2 within such plots which again all equats to construction cost, people these days do not want high ceilings or large back gardens due to the fact of higher maintanance and bill costs
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If it's just m2 that is floor area so you can go as high as you like.
I had an 1890's house in London with high ceilings and I loved it! Christmas trees get pricey though :) dl |
Same reason all these lego house have tiny garages, tiny rooms, doors that spring shut on their own and a multitude of other stupid things.
They are ****e in otherwords. |
Originally Posted by PaulC72
(Post 6943161)
it might also be something to do with plot sizes and allowable m2 within such plots which again all equats to construction cost, people these days do not want high ceilings or large back gardens due to the fact of higher maintanance and bill costs
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
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I don't know where you live buddy, but in London both the above will add value and are desirable.
Warm and cosy does it for me but I do like to have enough room for at least three cars off the road, a garage, pond, patio/decking, lawn etc.etc. Cheers Lee |
To increase ceiling height, the floor would need to increase by the same ratio which would increase your plot size by about 30% and add god knows how many £££.
Imagine a new build box rom with a 9 foot ceiling! :D |
Alot of plots these days come with a planning office defined ridge height, this is usualy in keeping with properties in the surrounding area.
Higher ceilings would increase the overall ridge height of the house :) |
thats why i dont like modern houses
mine is a 1927 built one with the nine and a half foot ceilings and its great i also have a MY98 new bunaglow for my retirement home but im not keen on its low ceilings but hey maybe by the time i retire i might have shrunk a few inchs so it wont matter :D:D high ceilings are great escpecially with nice coving round |
Talizman
I don't understand your logic - how does increasing the ceiling height affect the floor area? I miss my Victorian house - we can't get them in Surrey :( Gordo |
They still build them today then call them mosques.
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Originally Posted by Gordo
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Talizman
I don't understand your logic - how does increasing the ceiling height affect the floor area? I miss my Victorian house - we can't get them in Surrey :( Gordo Imagine a box room, say 6 foot x 8 foot with a 9 foot ceiling? It'd feel like a well! |
My parents new build which they bought last October has high ceilings in it. Ground floor has at least 9' ceilings and first floor has the same. The feeling of space is excellent, and it isn't costing much if anymore to heat.
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i work as a architect / technologist,
its mainly planning issues...... |
Soon all older houses will be demolished, all gardens will be declared as brown sites and it will all be built on with little square houses all looking just the same as the folk singer said. One HIP will fit them all but we will still have to pay through the nose to get one, even though we would not be allowed to sell the house anyway. Soon they will go full circle and start putting the houses on top of each other and calling them tower blocks again! No complaints will be allowed-about anything. We will be required to report our neighbours to the authorities if they even look as though they might do something wrong, and the police will be fully occupied in guarding the politicians at all times.
Les :( |
I work a lot with the construction industry and the new houses these days are utter crap. My house was built in 1910 (properly) and I love the high ceilings. Heating it isn't a problem since I fitted extra insulation and double glazing to the rear elevation. I'm a bit loathe to get rid of my original sash windows on the front though, despite their energy inefficiency
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i have a late 2006 house which I moved into this year and the ceilings on that are approx 9" it is a 3 storey house though and is quite big,thats made by elite homes (Iam 6ft 2 and if I stand on tip toes I can touch the ceilings on 2 floors with my arms, however cant quite manage it on the top floor)
The heating to be honest shouldnt be a problem as already mentioned, as you just add insulation between the floors etc, in fact my gas bill is down to £40 per month with EDC from £70 a month in a smallish 2 bed mid terrace. |
Originally Posted by jaytc2003
(Post 6945158)
i have a late 2006 house which I moved into this year and the ceilings on that are approx 9" it is a 3 storey house though and is quite big,thats made by elite homes (Iam 6ft 2 and if I stand on tip toes I can touch the ceilings on 2 floors with my arms, however cant quite manage it on the top floor)
The heating to be honest shouldnt be a problem as already mentioned, as you just add insulation between the floors etc, in fact my gas bill is down to £40 per month with EDC from £70 a month in a smallish 2 bed mid terrace. |
He has to stand on tip toes with arms stretched too. Me, I could lie on my back after a bluey and reach it. :D
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Originally Posted by Matt_taylor
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i work as a architect / technologist,
its mainly planning issues...... Please explain further! POC; what is ridge height? Talizman; your comment makes no sense to me!:confused: |
Originally Posted by mr_p1ssed_off
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Is it a dolls house :wonder:
meant 9 foot!! :D |
Originally Posted by Deep Singh
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Please explain further!
POC; what is ridge height? Talizman; your comment makes no sense to me!:confused: I think the bottom line is - if you want period features (high ceilings are a period feature) Buy a period property. If you you want a 'four or five bedroom' property that 'ticks all the boxes' then buy a modern dormer windowed bungalow (read - massively over valued rabbit hutch) |
A lot of these mass build timber framed houses are utter crap:( its sad to see all these old houses being knocked down with beautiful architecture to make way for some cheap timber framed shed.
Last house I rented was a new build timber frame place and I swear the place rattled if the missus was upstairs taking a sh it:eek: every little sound travelled through the house. Give me real bricks and mortar any day:thumb: |
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