Speeding ban question
My daughter thinks she may have just been caught doing 40MPH in a 30 zone and she has already got 3 points on her licence and due to the fact she only passed her test 10 months ago she will get banned...idiot i know but youth today dont listen
Question can someone else take her three points and how far do the police go into finding the driver at the time or are they happy just to take the £60 and give out the points Factual posts please and no sarky comments would be appreciated |
If she was snapped by a Gatso from the rear ,i think someone else could probably take the points,as they send the Notice of Intended Prosecution to the registered keeper of the vehicle, it is up to that person to declare who was driving at the time.If however it was taken from a van facing her,then obviously it would be slightly more risky for a male to take the rap for it.
In any event i would contest the N.I.P , its worth a go. For totally sound advice on the subject get over to the forums on PePiPoo: Helping the motorist to get justice That sight saved me from 3 points last year for a similar thing. |
If she tots up to 6 points given the length of time she had her licence, it will be revoked. Not sure if it a ban as such, but she will have to re-sit a test before she gets her licence back.
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she was caught by one of those vans where the copper sits inside and counts the money as the cars go past instead of catching the difficult law breakers
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could someone else take the points, good idea but if you get caught your gonna be in big sh*t, and lets face it if she says she thinks she saw doing 40 that really means 50
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Originally Posted by 34srm
(Post 6621098)
could someone else take the points, good idea but if you get caught your gonna be in big sh*t, and lets face it if she says she thinks she saw doing 40 that really means 50
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Originally Posted by powerman1
(Post 6621061)
she was caught by one of those vans where the copper sits inside and counts the money as the cars go past instead of catching the difficult law breakers
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Originally Posted by Abdabz
(Post 6621176)
:lol1: Suddenly the unwanted sarcasm appears by the very person who didn't want any in this thread :lol1:
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If someone else takes the points then it will go un-contested. If anyone says anything all you have to say is that "I genuinely believed it was me driving"
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Originally Posted by Felix.
(Post 6621190)
If someone else takes the points then it will go un-contested. If anyone says anything all you have to say is that "I genuinely believed it was me driving"
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Most of those sneaky revenue-vans seem to be catch you front-on, so I suspect she'll be looking at a ban at some point unfortunately :(
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Originally Posted by Petem95
(Post 6621204)
Most of those sneaky revenue-vans seem to be catch you front-on, so I suspect she'll be looking at a ban at some point unfortunately :(
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if you have foreign friends or relatives with a driving licence, you can give there details and licence number and that'll be the end of it...no points for no1...
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I got caught by one of these and took it all the way with help from Pepipoo. Result - no points, no fine, case dismissed due to lack of evidence.
Fight it, you can win, but be prepared for it to take a year or so and if your daughter gets done again they will come down like a ton of bricks if she fights it and wins this time ;) Dave |
Originally Posted by powerman1
(Post 6620910)
My daughter thinks she may have just been caught doing 40MPH in a 30 zone and she has already got 3 points on her licence and due to the fact she only passed her test 10 months ago she will get banned...idiot i know but youth today dont listen
Question can someone else take her three points and how far do the police go into finding the driver at the time or are they happy just to take the £60 and give out the points Factual posts please and no sarky comments would be appreciated Since you have publicly said that you are thinking about it, beware, piggies are watching Andy |
Originally Posted by prince_of_tokyo
(Post 6621222)
if you have foreign friends or relatives with a driving licence, you can give there details and licence number and that'll be the end of it...no points for no1...
Just bear in mind that this is Perverting the Course of Justice, which has a maximum sentence of life imprisonment. I've seen lots of people fall foul of this over traffic matters and most have served a prison sentence, albeit only six months or thereabouts. Good Luck:D |
Originally Posted by andy97
(Post 6621757)
If you follow through with this plan of action and are found out, you both face charges of perverting the course of justice, custodial sentence!!
Since you have publicly said that you are thinking about it, beware, piggies are watching Andy Vans in our area do cars from the front and back so be careful! Most are staffed with civillians anyway, and all the revenue from every ticket goes into the central goverments pockets and not into the Police's pocket or road safety!!! What a bunch of robbing Bas.......... just for your info:lol1: Having said that, it has to be said that most central ticket offices just want a victim to fire points and a fine out and move on to the next victim. You have a right to see the pictures prior to any court case, so ask for them and see what they show.:D Good Luck! |
Prince! I take it back, you do indeed have a very fine scooby!! :notworthy :D
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Originally Posted by J_sca001
(Post 6621921)
Prince! I take it back, you do indeed have a very fine scooby!! :notworthy :D
also, there was a celebrity (cant remember who) who stated she genuinly could not remember if it was her or her husband driving at the time of conviction...and got let off...it was the old annoying posh lady from 'im a celebrity get me outa here' me thinks :thumb: |
Originally Posted by prince_of_tokyo
(Post 6622248)
thankyou m8...ive heard of people actually using this way to avoid tickets
also, there was a celebrity (cant remember who) who stated she genuinly could not remember if it was her or her husband driving at the time of conviction...and got let off...it was the old annoying posh lady from 'im a celebrity get me outa here' me thinks :thumb: |
Originally Posted by andy97
(Post 6622332)
You are talking about the Hamiltons, who famously used the SS4 defence of section 172 of the road traffic act 1988
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Hmm geting caught twice in 10 months maybe resiting the test might not be such a bad thing?
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Originally Posted by druddle
(Post 6621338)
I got caught by one of these and took it all the way with help from Pepipoo. Result - no points, no fine, case dismissed due to lack of evidence.
Fight it, you can win, but be prepared for it to take a year or so and if your daughter gets done again they will come down like a ton of bricks if she fights it and wins this time ;) Dave |
Originally Posted by andy97
(Post 6621757)
If you follow through with this plan of action and are found out, you both face charges of perverting the course of justice, custodial sentence!!
Since you have publicly said that you are thinking about it, beware, piggies are watching Andy If someone else says they were driving, then they will plead via the post and not see the picture. If anything does come back, then just stick to your guns and say "I thought it was me driving". It will be considered an honest mistake and not perverting the course of justice. |
Originally Posted by powerman1
(Post 6622867)
Cant see how she can get away withit on lack of evidence if its been videod...please explain further
She may be able to get out of it on a similar sort of technicality. Dave |
Originally Posted by powerman1
(Post 6622867)
Cant see how she can get away withit on lack of evidence if its been videod...please explain further
Her best initial defence is to use the pace witness statement and go from there. |
Originally Posted by Felix.
(Post 6622927)
If someone else says they were driving, then they will plead via the post and not see the picture. If anything does come back, then just stick to your guns and say "I thought it was me driving". It will be considered an honest mistake and not perverting the course of justice.
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Originally Posted by druddle
(Post 6623305)
For me it was all around the circumstances. Front and rear photos, but the summons bundle contained the CPS' proof that they sent me the S172. The doc they said was proof was actually the one they sent to the lease company, so they couldnt prove the S172 was sent so had no evidence against me.
She may be able to get out of it on a similar sort of technicality. Dave Looking at the posts you have been given various ways to avoid prosecution. Just bear in mind that very few people get away with avoiding the fine and points, or worse still Perverting the course of justice. The ones you have read may only have worked for that person concerned at that time. It does not mean that it will work for your daughter. :) |
How many times are you going to dig her out of trouble? After the first set of points she should have been more careful, if she knows she can get away with it who's to say it won't happen again?
Let her get on with it, lesson learned. |
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