TDO5 20G question
what is the max boost this turbo can produce to the red line
and does the manifold need to be modified to fit it? thanks in advance |
On my STI3 no modification was required except for the oil feed pipe - not sure about the max boost.
Chris |
Mine runs to 1.7, not seen anyone run much more
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max ive heard of is 1.77, makes about 370, roller prepared car though.
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Originally Posted by Mad Hammer
Mine runs to 1.7, not seen anyone run much more
1.7 :eek2: is that on the Apexi now? most i ever saw was 1.61 with the Link on a cold day. Hope she holds together for ya mate. |
Not all these turbos are the same so you have to be clear what you are comparing. Also what capacity engine is it on?
A TD05-06 20Gs on my 95 WRX Wagon 2 litre is doing 421 bhp (355 ft.lbs.) at 1.6 bar at 6,600 rpm, V-Power plus 2 mls/litre NF. Sigma ECU. The turbo has run up to 1.9 bar but there is no point as it just creates heat and less power. I doubt there is any point exceeding 1.7 bar maximum on any of these turbos and subject to the engine it may be better running quite a bit less boost. |
Andy F 20g with a bit of porting.
1.66 peak on Optimax + NF = 380 x 360 @ Powerstation, or 407 x 360 @ Well Lane. I believe the first one! Lovely gutsy turbo that is very drivable if you keep it revving, easy with an Sti and a bit of attitude. :D Should add this is with a stack of supporting mods (all external) and an Apexi mapped by AndyF. Graham |
Originally Posted by STI Craig
what is the max boost this turbo can produce to the red line
With a very strong dose of octane booster on a fully optimised car I have seen 440bhp produced at 1.47bar. One thing to be aware of is that there are a lot of TD05-20G replicas out there, I recommend making sure it has a genuine Mitsubishi part number on it before parting with your cash ! Andy |
With a very strong dose of octane booster on a fully optimised car I have seen 440bhp produced at 1.47bar. |
Am running 1.77 peak on mine.
Best dyno result I've seen is 385 flywheel. Best result ever was 311 WHP. Pulls like a train :) very nice. Mapped by Powerstation. |
Here's the 20G compressor map. It shows where it's most efficient, and where it flows most air. The two are not mutually exclusive.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...6h-20g-cfm.gif |
Originally Posted by harvey
Actually it was 15% Methanol if you remember.
Andy |
Originally Posted by Andy.F
Correct, an exceptionally cheap and effective octane booster.
Andy And 15% would be considered a Strong Dose :D |
Well, not really :D, not this year anyway ;)
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
The turbo itself will run to 2 bar but the engine may not like it !
With a very strong dose of octane booster on a fully optimised car I have seen 440bhp produced at 1.47bar. One thing to be aware of is that there are a lot of TD05-20G replicas out there, I recommend making sure it has a genuine Mitsubishi part number on it before parting with your cash ! Andy i think i should have no problem getting a good quality 20G as its you im going to buy it from lol |
Look out for 'cheap' offers via PM ;) :D
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What would one of these on a 2.5 conversion do, mapped to 1 bar to stop by pistons frying?
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Originally Posted by mr fix it
What would one of these on a 2.5 conversion do, mapped to 1 bar to stop by pistons frying?
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It will depend to some extent on what heads you have. STi heads '97 > breath quite well, and I would expect 320 >330bhp if it's all working well.
Uk heads would be lower. Mark. |
Its a type R STI my99 with uprated fuel pump plus regulator, RCM oil cooler, RCM induction, RCM superlight flywheel, ASP 3" exhaust (with or without CAT!), 2.5 STI block with standard internals. I hope to get about 330 on the standard turbo, Was looking at a TD05 20G with some 550 or 750(?)s for closer to 375-400 bhp.
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Andy, How did Craig Muir get on with the 20g i gave him for his HKS 2.2conversion? (AWD) He reckoned it was giving 420 running 1.3? Think he's turned it up a wee bit now though.:norty: :nono: Was going to keep for my 'built' 2.5 but decided to go for either a 06-49 or 321t. Just wander if i made the right decision for the hills!:rolleyes:
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Yes it went well Doug. Don't think he is over 400bhp though as he is still on the std 22B tmic.
Andy |
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