Is our government trying to instill fear into us,like the US did to its people?
 

Behavior of liquid bomb suspects mirrors 7/7 patsies - no evidence of terror planning

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | August 16 2006

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The characters and behavior of the few known liquid bomb suspects are completely inconsistent with any notion that they were preparing to kill themselves in acts of mass terror - mirroring the pre-attack demeanor of the 7/7 patsies.

A CCTV image (top) shows one of the suspects, Tayib Rauf, entering a bulk order supermarket in Birmingham just two hours before anti-terror police swooped in to grab him for his alleged role in a plot to bomb ten transatlantic airliners. What were the tools of terror Rauf was acquiring before his kamikaze death mission? Knives? Peroxide to make the deadly liquid bomb? Cameras to detonate the bombs?

No - he was buying cakes.

"Does this look like the kind of person planning such a plot? He doesn't look like he's about to blow himself up," the owner of the store told the London Mirror.

Rauf chatted with the owner, who said he was more concerned about his father's confectionary business than the fact that he was about to aid in the mid-air slaughter of 3,000 people.

Any two-bit psychologist can tell you that this individual's behavior completely belies the notion that his life is about to come to an end. That in itself exposes the alleged plot for the monumental fraud it is.

Former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan Craig Murray has also highlighted the limited capabilities and intent of the suspects - proof he says that the alert was government propaganda from a cabal that yearns for a "new 9/11."

"None of the alleged terrorists had made a bomb. None had bought a plane ticket. Many did not even have passports, which given the efficiency of the UK Passport Agency would mean they couldn't be a plane bomber for quite some time," said Murray.

Again we hear the same story over and over - they had young families, they were not political, they were active members of the community, everyone liked them whatever race, they loved football, they planned to be doctors, they had future prospects.

Is this an inside joke? MI5 can't even find some angry Muslim loners with criminal records to at least make it appear as if they would have any motive to carry out these attacks? It's such a blatant ruse you wonder if they are doing it on purpose to send a message - that everyone should live in fear of a dawn raid from the terror cops.

The evidence that the London bombers knew they were about to die was so flimsy that newspapers and even the London Metropolitan Police concluded that they were unwitting dupes.



"A Metropolitan Police counter terrorist expert told a seminar that the four terrorists - Mohammad Sidique Khan, 30, Shehzad Tanweer, 22, Germaine Lindsay, 19, and Hasib Hussain, 18, - did not fit the preconceived terrorist profile."

The bombers purchased return tickets, played cricket, ate Big Macs, and had arguments with members of the public in the hours before the attacks took place. They left no suicide notes.

"I've seen the CCTV footage of these people. They do not appear to be on their way to commit any crime at all. The Russell Square bomber [Hasib Hussain] is actually seen going into shops and bumping into people [prior to his attack]," the expert said.

The bombers were described by friends as as four "nice lads", "normal kids who played basketball and kicked a ball around."

A week after the liquid bomb alert and we still have no motive and no evidence that suggests these individuals are anything other than unfortunate fall guys for Blair's latest act of psychological warfare against the British people.

But it's a battle of information that is increasingly swinging away from baseless fearmongering and in favor of the truth. BBC and British newspaper website forums have been swamped with people expressing their incredulousness about the reality of the latest so-called threat.

A London Guardian journalist in an article today highlights how he traveled the country and found widespread skepticism about the real nature of the alert amongst British citizens - with only tourists wholeheartedly trusting the government.

Assertions that the alert is nothing more than political propaganda have also been echoed by commentators and journalists themselves, following a rash of articles in broadsheet newspapers that scoff at the much vaunted scope of the alleged plot.

It's very iffy, I would have expected someone planning a terrorist outrage to be walking around wearing camouflage clothing, a shamagh, an assault vest, carrying an AK-47, and maybe shouting "death to all infidel scum".

I mean they don't want to draw attention to themselves by doing something suspicious like buying cakes, do they?

:cuckoo:

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Rauf chatted with the owner, who said he was more concerned about his father's confectionary business than the fact that he was about to aid in the mid-air slaughter of 3,000 people.


So if he was a terrorist, he would have popped down to his local supermarket and chatted about slaughtering 3,000 people then? :lol1:

The public do not know the difference between Fact or Fiction

The Government dictate the supposed Facts to us, when this could quite easily be fiction

The Government can easily maniuplate public opinions, due the the resources they have available

And the owner of the store would know what a terrorist about to blow himself up looks like then.....:rolleyes:

Best he gets a job a LHR straight away...:thumb:

FFS what do you expect..... "would you like an iced bun sir?"... "no thanks as I'm about to murder 3000 innocent people with my liquid bomb!"

Why use a two-bit psychologist for that...... just us the feckin store owner as he seems to be a feckin genius....:thumb:

Yeah sure. Whatever you say :rolleyes: This happened yesterday.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolavconsole/u...toryid=4797361

Iraq is a prime example.....remember how those weapons of mass destruction were going to be released and kill us all with 15 minutes notice.?...and guess what there were no weapons of mass destruction.../and remember the palagarised PHD thesis they used to justify the invasion...and remember the way the taliban had been deafeated 5 years ago, but are still going strong.....

This government has a proven track record of lying to the public on a mass and shamless scale....but the public are becoming braindead like the US public and accept unquestiningly everything the government/media tell us....all part of the new world order....

What, our Government is LYING to us!!!!......:eek: FCUK........ :D

Cant remember where I read it but aparently they did find WMD. Someone will come along and say where I read it as I think I got the link of this web site actually.

Also the taliban was defeated in a sence, Yeah the fighters are still going strong, underground. Theyre not walking the streets and running the law in Afghan are they?

look davey im not saying I believe entirely with the article, my point is just that our government can make us think whatever they want, just like the americans do to their people and the north koreans etc.

Im just posting the article of ra healthy discussion.

Egyptian mumbo feckin jumbo now!............. :rolleyes:

Well you should have started the discussion then rather than a simple copy and paste. Whats the point in starting something and not giving your view of it but expecting others to give their veiw?

Anyway, the Government doesnt control what we think, Look at the day after 7/7 we were all walking around fairly fearless. The american government probably does control their country because the yanks are gullible and will believe anything and be scared of anything.

Posted this a few weeks ago:

"never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it"

Here you go. :)

http://www.strategypage.com/dls/arti...0067502716.asp

Ok it's not much but some have been found - meaning that he did have some. Yes, the government may have had other motives for going to war as well.

Don't forget.

1. The west knows Saddam had chemical/biological weapons, we sold them to him when it was in our own interests!

2. He bragged he'd use them against our troops and the Israelis in 1991.

3. He did use them against Iran during the Iran/Iraq war, and killed a lot of his own troops in the process.

4. He used them against his own people, for example Fallujah(sp?).


But hey, a conspiracy theory is much more fun than reality isn't it. :D

Thanks for the link Iwan. Was worried nobody would back it up...lol

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The bombers were described by friends as as four "nice lads", "normal kids who played basketball and kicked a ball around."


Surely the whole point if you are a terrorist is to persuade other people that you aren't! You do this by blending in to normal society.

I think if they walked round looking like Osama Bin Laden with explosives strapped to them, for months before the attack, someone might just notice. :lol1:

We are talking about individuals that are allegedly prepared to blow themselves up whilst carrying out their orders, any two-bit psychologist would point out that they are not what the rest of an educated western society would classify as the ‘norm’.

If they were about to carry out, in cold blood, the carnage that has been suggested are we really surprised that they may have the mental resilience to shop for pastries without having a mental breakdown of some kind?

I know that there is lots of theory and counter theory but to suggest that this individual could not have been involved becuase he retains the ability to walk into Lidels know what he may be about to do is bollox, plain and simple.

Doesn't PSL shop at Liddl? :Suspiciou

Shame on me, I know how to spell Waitrose though :thumb:

Ohh come on...Im sure it would have been massive headline news if they had found any weapons of any significance whatsoever...it would have been xmas for the lying government....its hardly news that would have gone unnoticed

As for the Taliban being defeated, they were never even slightly defaeted, sure they were driven underground, and the ONLY area the 'coalition' took was kabul and kandahar...

:rolleyes: Right so throwing them out of power wasnt a defeat for then then? :rolleyes:

ohh and didnt you bother looking at the link Iwan posted?

bollox they found no WMD's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9R-Et6sezs

They diddn't even have passports ?
Or tickets or a bomb or anything else that suggests that they were terrorists.

I diddn't know that you had to prove yourself innocent in the UK.

It the same with Jean charles de menzies. At the time the same anti islamic people on here as well as the idiots and the racists all believed the lies about the incident from the Police. Now it has been proven that they were all lies. Lets see how this one pans out.

It's proven that he was an illegal immigrant and shouldn't have been in the country at the time. If he had respect for the laws of Britain and left when his visa ran out, then he would still be alive today. Fact.

The punishment hardly fits the crime though?

He wasn't 'punished' he was 'stopped'............. anyway I bet that put all the other potential muslim bombers off any little tube rides.......:thumb:

No and I feel sorry for Mr Mendes family, BUT the people arrested last week have not had their heads blown off have they? they were arrested as suspects. have any of them been charged yet?

OK, he was 'stopped' :rolleyes:

The point is, it didn't put anybody off. 2 weeks later a group of 4 failed to blow themselves up.

Maybe the 'pressure' of knowing they may end up getting a cap in the back of the head made them stress out, make a couple of mistakes and henceforth fcuk the whole thing up (thankfully)................ ;)