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stavros 17 May 2006 02:43 PM

geometry for hillclimp
 
Does anybody has experience on what geometry works better on classic for use on tarmac hillclimp?

doug2507 17 May 2006 02:44 PM

Speak to Graham (911) or John Stevenson. They should be able to give you a few pointers.

ozzy 17 May 2006 03:02 PM

What's your current suspension spec.?

John Stevenson (username on here) also sprint races his Impreza, so is worth asking too.

Stefan

stavros 17 May 2006 03:15 PM

I use TEIN HA with pillow ball top mounts, Cusco sway bars front and rear, whiteline anti-lift kit, ajdustable drop links front and rear and adjustable lateral links with ball joints.

ozzy 17 May 2006 03:26 PM

From what I've seen of various geometry's they all seem to run toe-out (+.05 at least), negative camber (1.25 to 1.75+ ... some up to 3 deg) and loads of positive castor (5 deg+).

Graham and the two John's are the ones to ask as they have real-life hillclimb and sprint experience :)

911 17 May 2006 05:32 PM

Sorry, couldn't resist...
http://www.dropshots.com/daymainfram...0030101&cimg=0

Graham.

Setting so much depend on the spec of the chassis, you the driver, and the type of hillclimbs/Sprints you intendto run.

JIM THEO 18 May 2006 09:41 AM

Toe out front-rear (at least 1-1,5 mm/wheel) and the more possible castor.
The ammount of camber and the rest depend of your driving style, different hillclimbs, local waxen tarmac etc (you know Greek tarmac...)

stavros 18 May 2006 10:18 AM

I know that the exact settings depend on several factors and that camber must be found measuring tire temperatures, but what I need is a starting point from you guys with personal expirience.

Jim, can you give the toe settings in degrees? Also, I did not know that you run a greek version of the forum, I will register asap.
By the way, I am in Cyprus but anyway the tarmac is about in the same condition as in Greece. :)

JIM THEO 19 May 2006 07:17 AM

Actually Stavros we have changed recently our forum to www.scooby.gr so you have to visit us there!
Anyway 1mm/wheel for 17" wheels is about 6 minutes/wheel so 10 minutes per wheel toe out is a good starting point.
I run the same settings with 1,4/1,5 degrees negative camber on my "daily" WRX without any tire wear problem and the behaviour except in extreme cases like flood is perfect for my taste!
As you told also temp measurements is a good indication of the best camber for your car, your driving style and each hillclimb.
About the same settings uses Prodrive for his Group N Imprezas.

stavros 20 May 2006 08:37 AM

Thanks Jim,

Do you know where can I find these Prodrive settings? Any webpage?

ozzy 22 May 2006 09:24 AM

Prodrive Geometry for a classic Impreza are:-


Front Axle
Max -ve Camber (equal on both sides)
1mm toe-in (both sides)

Rear Axle
Max -ve Camber (usually factory set and non-adjustable)
1mm toe-in (both sides)

I have a few other "suggested" setups if you want those to try?

Stefan

JIM THEO 22 May 2006 11:34 AM

Stefan are you sure these are the Group N Prodrive settings and not road settings for the classic?

ozzy 22 May 2006 11:59 AM

Sorry, only read Savros's post. The ones I listed are "fast road" settings, not the Group N ones.

stavros 22 May 2006 05:14 PM

So, what are the Group N ones?


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