“I don’t Believe it!”
 

In the words of Victor “I don’t Believe it!”

I was a passenger in one of my works mate 2001 Bug Eye WRX, totally standard, we were travelling along the A50 and the typical happened, MR rep came up behind at 70mph is his Vectra and flashed us to move over.

Let the fun begin

We pulled over with the intention of flooring it as the Vectra got level with us leaving him well behind.

As he did the Vectra just kept pulling away, he could not keep up with it, we gave up at 135MPH

An the worst part – IT WAS A DIESEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, (nice cloud of diesel smoke coming from the back end)

Checked the Reg no. tonite on the RAC site and it does not list which engine it has other than to say it’s a Heavy Oil Auto Vectra SRI (2005)

What the hell have Vauxhall done to their diesels to let it out run a WRX

: popcorn smiley :

135mph, private road, ahem

run and find a flame suit quick!!!

these sort of things have been covered soooo many times

have do do a quick search, at least he aint the only one then

they gave it loads of torque
new diesels are fairly quick when rolling

steve

some scooby your mate has!:lol1:

I know hes going to get the p155 took out of him for weeks, saying that swaped my scooby for a 93 convertible his scooby leaves that standing.

what i can't understand is he was trying, just been looking at the specs and it must have been the 3.0 V6 CDTi as it had twin tail pipes (unless its an after market system)

They are only listed as 175BHP

Scooby = 225 BHP

Its not the bhp mate, its the torque thats red faced you two.

Go drive one of the new V6 twin turbo diesel jags!!!

No longer are diesels crap, theyre high performance torque busting weapons

Yeah but if it had been wet and twisty eh????/
dave:D

just been looking at a diesel tuning site

http://www.dieseltuninguk.co.uk/

look under project cars

A Vectra with 219bhp and 345lbft

AND A DIESEL

I did blitz an Audi a6 2.5 TDI today in my STIPPP, he thought he had me..... but i just screamed past! (private road of course).. he was chucking out so much soot at one point that i put my headlights on and my wipers!...lol
So my advice is..... you need 300bhp+300lbft at least to stay ahead of most modern "prestige" cars, especially turbo diesel varients!

I would never class a Vauxhall as "prestige" lol

Have you seen how much a top of the range vauxhaull would cost you?, well up there with the germans! (vauxhall are german after all!)

mmmmmmm big money for some

must say the Vectra VXR looks very nice but for the money

A Scooby would win hands down

Saab Convertible up for sale - Back to a Scooby STI PPP this time for me, then I will find Mr rep and ;)

Just keep your eyes open, seen him b4 around East Mids

Black SRI, won't post reg number I would not like it doing to be but its a private plate starting S8 ***

just to say any one looking for a nice 93- convertible 2002 (52) 2.0t (185bhp) £13k

I hope your mate dropped a cog when he booted it - if not, what do you expect?

So I take it if he was chucking out all that soot for you to put on wipers and lights..................




You were behind him:rolleyes: :D

diesels are quite fast really i had a old k reg renault extra van 1.9td and i raced a skyline and beat it lol and im a girl!! :P

standard bug-eye onwards wrx aren't that quick - especially with out the PPP

Hi everyone I'm a nooby here. I drive a 200bhp & 306lbft 1.9 CDTi Vectra. i've pulled away from many cars with a little puff of smoke.

Let's face it though our Vecs are no match for your motors on the twisty or launching, but once we're moving, move over. LMAO

My mate has just had his 3.0V6 CDTi rolling roaded and got 220bhp & 310lbft.

u need a better subaru 225 is **** no wonder u got beat most things will hump u with that power power ha ha ha

I reckon that - with a KnockLink, a re-map and a sump of £35+ oil - you would have nailed him easy!

MrReee

"We pulled over with the intention of flooring it as the Vectra got level with us leaving him well behind."

****.

Very impressive figures! How long will the rattly old things last? Not very IMHO!

hmmm private road I followed a Merc up to 130 yesterday, I think he expect me to fall behind, i stayed back but kept up. I didnt expect him to keep pulling so strong though, I couldn't have passed him if I wanted to. If people decide to race theres soooooo many things out there now that are actually really quick!!

I got caught out by my mates Corsa, this is an L reg SRI 1.4 and SHE's got it kitted out :) caught me by bootin it when I was below 2000 revs in 4th, obviously put it down to my terrible driving but still :)

There are many fast cars out there nowadays, and the scooby is not the fastest.... However, it is down to the driving skill too, and the condition of your car. The standard bugeye starts to pulll strong from 3500 >rpm, so if you are cruising with 70 in the 5th gear and then floor it, well not much will happen; till you reach the proper rpm. But drive it properly and I can tell you it is not slow. But the PPP would make a huge difference on it, not only extra power and torque, but the way it gets delivered.

Considering most people on this site bang on about how fragile the Impreza is, and how much "specialist" care and attention it requires I think commenting on the reliability of another marque is pretty far fetched!

Now if you want to drive something GM & fun nip down to your local vauxhall main dealer and organise a test drive in the Monaro VXR.. They are ceasing production soon so not many about so get a drive now :)

P.S. The Imprezas are crap up the top end! Great for 0-60 sprints and on the tight and twisties but on the open road. most things will say "bye.. bye.."

Ouch :lol1:

Thanks Davey.

As we all know you have to weigh off reliability against performance, but to attain my figures all i've done is fit a K&N Panel Filter, CAT back stainless exhaust and a Diagnostix UK Tuning module. All the tuning module does is fool the ECU into thinking that the Common Rail requires more fuel, thus increasing the pressure slightly. Nothing too drastic though, and we've not had any reliability issues from hundreds of diesels from many manufacturers.

Their website - www.dieseltuner.co.uk

My view of things is: Diesels are a different kettle of fish really, the engine will basically use as much air and fuel as you can throw at it, but as you do not have the predictability of a 'spark' to produce ignition the problem is therefore keeping everything in sync, once your up at 4,000 revolutions per minute the engine is consuming a lot of fuel and this must be injected into the cylinders to control the "firing".. In the past this has been a serious down fall, mechanical fuel governors are just not very accurate and the engines were loud and while torquey by nature produced very little power so were very slow at the top end.

With modern technologies this fuel injection can be carried out with a lot more accuracy but you are still restrained by the fact diesels run on the principle of fuel detonation so the engines are under a lot more strain so the faster you want to make it rev the stronger you must make the block, crank, pistons, head etc so there has to be a happy medium to save on costs.. Modern diesels basically blow the old clattery oil burning things we are all used to out of the water.