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NikiM 26 March 2006 05:30 PM

block and head bolts
 
hello i was wunderin if anyone could tell me if the block bolts are strech bolts?

ive just taken the engine out of me 96 wrx ej20,due to big ends!


any replies appreciated

thanks

RON 26 March 2006 05:33 PM

No they're not..... they can be re-used....

Timothy Morphy 26 March 2006 06:01 PM

Sorry to but in!! If there not stretch bolts then why the strange torque sequence?

Tim

RON 26 March 2006 06:06 PM

Thats common with all engines, it's in order to add the stress to the heads in a regualted manner, otherwise the heads can warp as a result of being tightened up in the wrong order..!! especially if they're alloy, which they clearly are on a scoob!

Oldfella 26 March 2006 07:03 PM

This could end up sounding like a pantomime....I believe they are stretch bolts but can be used again.

justanotherperson 26 March 2006 09:09 PM

stretch bolts are not designed to be used twise (not saying they cant be used twise) and just for the record i wouldnt regardless,the last thing i would want be doing is trying to sort out a head gasket after a rebuild for the sake of £100 odd

ZEN Performance 26 March 2006 09:23 PM

Torque and angle settings are not only for stretch bolts (ie bolts taken to yield in final tightening) it's just an alternative method to try and get a specific preload on the bolt without being subject to friction discrepancies.

I dare say a lot of research went into how to best tighten the bolts to get the right preload, and these sequences are refined with each revision of the car. Sometimes it's due to differences in parts (ie block casting) but some times it's down to improvements in the process.

The block bolts are fine to reuse.

Oldfella 26 March 2006 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by justanotherperson
stretch bolts are not designed to be used twise (not saying they cant be used twise) and just for the record i wouldnt regardless,the last thing i would want be doing is trying to sort out a head gasket after a rebuild for the sake of £100 odd

I agree and I wouldn't but a lot of people have, without issue. They are better if "rested" before use, apparently.

funkyspider 27 March 2006 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by Oldfella
They are better if "rested" before use, apparently.

There you go little bolts, you just and a lie down and a relax on the bench while I do all the hard work for a few hours lol.

I was advised to replace the stretch bolts when I had new heads (MY01), was told they could be reused but advise was while doing all that work best to replace with higher tensile non-stretch. Werent cheap mind !

Martin

Timothy Morphy 27 March 2006 08:07 PM

Yes,got a set of arp studs on my 2.5,great quality,cost £160,but whats an extra £60 for peice of mind?!

Tim


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