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akshay67 11 February 2006 08:49 PM

What do you think of land rovers?
 
I need to sell the scoob as becoming a family man has taken its toll.

Been looking at the 4x4's and had eyes on a Rav4 before checking out Land Rovers (Freelander) and it seems like a hell of a lot of car for the money.

Does anyone have any opinions/experiences on these?

My budget is 9k.

Cheers!

Nevetas 11 February 2006 09:27 PM

Get a defender :thumb:

teknobod 11 February 2006 09:29 PM

Avoid the petrol Freelanders, they suffer from the common Rover head gasket problem !!

Iwan 11 February 2006 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by Nevetas
Get a defender :thumb:

^^^ Agreed. :D

s70rjw 11 February 2006 09:52 PM

Avoid Freelanders full stop. 2 people I know have had them from new. Electrical faults, head gasket went on petrol one as did air con. V6 does 18 mpg and uses litre of oil every 1000 miles. Diesel one is noisy. Honda CRV or RAV 4 is where the wise money goes, or a Defender

akshay67 11 February 2006 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by s70rjw
Avoid Freelanders full stop. 2 people I know have had them from new. Electrical faults, head gasket went on petrol one as did air con. V6 does 18 mpg and uses litre of oil every 1000 miles. Diesel one is noisy. Honda CRV or RAV 4 is where the wise money goes, or a Defender


Information much appreciated - thanks. I guess I will be reverting back to a Rav 4 as I have read this elsewhere too. The only thing with CR-Vs are their shape is a bit boxy, although so seem ok.

pete1977 11 February 2006 10:29 PM

My mates a Land Rover nut and the only one he wouldnt buy is a freelander.I dont think any of the die hard land rover mob were very impressed with them.

pslewis 11 February 2006 11:12 PM

Land Rover??

Land Rover??

When there are decent Japanese 4x4's about??

MADNESS!!

Land Rovers are, and always have been, UTTER CRAP!!

I have been around for a long time ....... Land Rovers have always been a luaghing stock!

Pete

Luan Pra bang 12 February 2006 01:31 AM

sister has had one from new W reg problems in the first 6 months under warranty and nothing has ever broken on it since not even leccy windows etc. its the non turbo diesel version though.

billythekid 12 February 2006 08:08 AM

We had a couple (TD4s) at work. They were quite good. I did not manage to break one so they must be quite strong. :lol1:

Iwan 12 February 2006 08:53 AM

AFAIK the TD4 versions had BMW engines/gearboxes, so are supposed to be a lot more reliable than earlier versions.

zxr750Nick 12 February 2006 10:38 AM

Don't even think about it. Colleague of mine bought one, two weeks later the head gasket thing........

Nick

struv 12 February 2006 10:55 AM

get a rav cos they go like buggery

Jamescsti 12 February 2006 11:08 AM

If you want a decent 4x4 avoid the CR-V, it's pretty crap really, however if it will see nothing more than a puddle then it's not a bad car

CrisPDuk 12 February 2006 03:04 PM

Get either a Rav4 or a Landcruiser, there is a very good reason why Toyota took and continue to retain the majority of former Land Rover markets in countries where 4x4s are actually needed!:thumb:

Flatcapdriver 12 February 2006 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
Get either a Rav4 or a Landcruiser, there is a very good reason why Toyota took and continue to retain the majority of former Land Rover markets in countries where 4x4s are actually needed!:thumb:

Actually, it had more to do with Toyota actively targetting Land Rover markets and exploiting them by offering local manufacturing and licensing arrangements, cheaper parts and to be fair - better marketing. The Series/Defender products have never really suffered from the reliability problems that the Range Rover, Disco and Freelander have and whilst the Land Cruiser is a fantastic product I know what I'd prefer to be working on out in the bush, if my 4x4 broke down. The bakkies that Toyota produce are excellent but I'd prefer an enclosed vehicle in that environment.

ALi-B 12 February 2006 11:05 PM

As above avoid the Freelander. They aren't nice to drive, not the best built, usual k-series gripes. slow, thisty and horrible brakes.

If you "have" to have one (usually due to a nagging female spouse ;) ) get the diesel

We had one on the company fleet. It was only outdone on costs by the Rover 25 and 216s (anyone see a link?;) ).

cookstar 13 February 2006 01:35 AM

Get yourself a vauxhall Frontera :thumb:



:lol1:

Brendan Hughes 13 February 2006 11:27 AM

Recently raised here (week or two ago). There was a link to the Channel4 website with reviews. Almost all the Rav4 reviews were "great!", but almost all the Freelander reviews were "It broke".

Big a1 13 February 2006 12:27 PM

Guy at work runs an 04 diesel one.

Reliability seems to be ok - he's had no problems as far as i'm aware. However I think an accurate summary would be that it does absolutley nothing very well i.e. performance is average, as is fuel economy, handling etc.

Much better cars out there that i'm sure would meet your needs better - imo obviously:)

ALi-B 13 February 2006 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by cookstar
Get yourself a vauxhall Frontera :thumb:



:lol1:

LOL...the company Freelander's predacessor was a Frontera :D

It actually went wrong less....only major problem was a stripped thread in the head which caused a sparkplug to blow out whilst driving down the by-pass :D:D (blame heavy handed vaux mechanics for that).

Still crap though ;)

Senior_AP 13 February 2006 01:24 PM

My brother had a Range Rover 2.5DSE. P reg, immaculate.

Still **** and he sold it.

Gotta agree, Jap are better motors...

ALi-B 13 February 2006 01:31 PM

Range Rovers are good compared to Freelanders though ;)

Senior_AP 13 February 2006 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by ALi-B
Range Rovers are good compared to Freelanders though ;)

The 2.5DSE was a shocking car. I couldn't imagine anything worse.

Loud at speed, painful performance (40bhp/ton anyone??), had to brake 2 miles before junctions, creeking dashboard, loud juddery rumbley tyres.

My god it was ****e.

My bro's new Golf TDi is however a lovely motor. Thank god he saw sense!!

MY97_Toy 16 February 2006 09:26 AM

Just picked up Rav 4 last week was looking up to the same value as yourself. The freelanders were absolutely slated in reviews.

I started to look at them myself as it was becoming difficult to source a private 2nd hand Rav for the correct money. They do hold value very well. However when looking at the reviews of owners I would not even consider one.

Our Rav is a Second car for taking family and the dog out in one go. However I just saw the pics of the New Freelander in Autocar and if the problems have been ironed out I think I will buy a diesel to replace my Golf V. I will wait till the new year or so as my experiences of early production new models have been a bit hit and miss (Mercedes) read ......crap!

The Freelanders do look good and are tempting. The new one I hope will tick all the boxes as does the Discovery which I love, but, cannot afford at the moment.

RoShamBo 16 February 2006 11:39 AM

There is a new Freelander out later in the year. Looks very good.

MikesWagon 16 February 2006 11:46 AM

Just to offer a balanced view.

We bought a hippo (freelander) to replace a my99 wagon a few months after our daughter was born. Although we had enough room in the scoob, I was fed up with the boy racer attention, running costs, and the customer service from our dealer. This was about 3 years ago and it was a 5dr 1.8 xei.

2 things went wrong in the time we had it: 1) the throttle body was sticking so LR sent a courtesy hippo out to us that night, and picked up ours the following day. 2) The gasket was on its way out, they spotted this at a service - wasn't noticeable to me, and replaced it under warranty. They actually fitted the newer design of head at this time.

Of course this was from a LR dealer. One of my workmates wives had a 3dr, gasket went, think about £1k to sort.

The after sales service was excellent, funny since both Subaru and LR dealers are the same franchise in Aberdeen.

We couldn't afford a TD4 at the time, and felt the 2.0D was a bit noisy.

£9k should now get you a TD4, no problem. If you do go for a 1.8, that should get you the later cylinder head, but check if the gaskets been done.

We've since sold it due to the wifes work, but I'd have another 1 without hesitation, miss it much more than the scoob too. I almost rolled a workmates CRV, I've never been in a RAV4, but consider both of them pretty bland.

Mike.

RESSE 16 February 2006 03:13 PM

330 bhp Defender 90!
 
http://www.overfinch.co.uk/?node_id=1.3.3&vehicle_id=21

:notworthy

Brendan Hughes 16 February 2006 03:22 PM

Considering it doesn't include a full rollcage - No Way. Grossly overpowered, high CofG, and a body of aluminium which will flatten to the dashboard level if the car rolls. Death trap.

JackClark 16 February 2006 03:23 PM


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