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ricardo 16 January 2006 10:04 AM

Bioethanol news item - 'ideal for turbos'
 
BBC has an article about the increasing use of bioethanol in fuel:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4498934.stm

It doesn't mention that the Tesco 99 octane is up to 5% bioethanol (post corrected), but it quotes Saab:
'E85's higher octane rating adds 30bhp to the 150bhp turbocharged engine, and a 15% gain in fuel consumption can be had at high speeds, said Kjell ac Bergstrom, chief executive, of Saab Automobile Powertrain.

"Turbocharged engines are particularly well suited to the benefits of ethanol," Mr Bergstrom says.'

Now the bad news - there are some issues with the effect of E85 (the 85% bio version) on Scoobs:
http://www.subaru.com.au/news/?newsid=12342

Graz 16 January 2006 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by ricardo
Now the bad news - there are some issues with the effect of E85 (the 85% bio version) on Scoobs:
http://www.subaru.com.au/news/?newsid=12342

That's kind of interesting, had a tank of Tesco 99 RON whilst at my folks over Christmas. Car didn't feel right after, seemed hesitant to come on boost. Might just all be in my mind though :freak3: Normally run it on Optimax, don't think the Tesco stuff is available round here. Seemed to be back to normal once its normal diet resumed :D

RJMS 16 January 2006 12:54 PM

I thought that Tesco 99 Ron was about 5% bioethanol http://www.greenergy.com/products/99_octane.html - that bit from the Australian website is a bit worrying especially as minis is a UK MY99 with a few added tweaks, it does seem to like Tesco 99 at the moment though.

AndyC_772 16 January 2006 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Subaru Australia
All Subaru Liberty, Impreza, Forester and Outback vehicles produced after Model Year 1990 with the exception of Liberty B4 and Impreza WRX STi MY99 & MY00 models are able to operate on a maximum of 10% Ethanol blend (E10).

Sounds like Tesco 99 (5% bioethanol) should be fine in most cars, then. I use it in my '05 JDM STI with no problems.

Adam M 16 January 2006 02:15 PM

"a 15% gain in fuel consumption at higher speeds!" - well that is amazing!

do you think that might be an error?

What if ? 16 January 2006 02:22 PM

My MY05STI PPP loves Tesco 99. starts better, pulls better and runs smoother. I will ring Subaru UK just to check. BP Ultimate sucks in my car, ran like someone had stuf a rag in the turbo and had problems starting in the cold mornings and ran rough low down too.

Carl2 16 January 2006 05:41 PM


Because E85 has a much higher octane rating (104 RON) than petrol, this allows the timing of the engine's ignition to be advanced, producing more power without risk of harmful 'knocking'.
http://www.testdriven.co.uk/news.cfm...ex-fuel_models

GazTheHat 17 January 2006 09:28 AM

Sounds interesting, now all we need is a cheap conversion price and for it to be a quater of the price of Optimax.


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