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SSSS 21 December 2005 05:38 PM

engine smoke
 
Hi guys

I am a first time subaru owner and I have some problems.

I started my car this morning and I left it to idle to a few min, so then I started to rev the car in neutral to see if everthing was fine, I only rev it to 2000rev, then gave it another idle for 1 min, then rev it to 3500rev, then again left it to idle for 1 min, then i reved it to 4500rev and noticed some smoke come out the engine bay.

I turned the car off, and opend the bonet, some smoke was coming from the radiater at the front of the car, it was greyish steam with no oil smell, so i assume it was water.

engine temp is fine, oil level is good (due for a oil service), boost is fine.

what could it be?

SSSS 21 December 2005 05:46 PM

??

jaytc2003 21 December 2005 05:58 PM

cracked radiator end plates, may not be noticeable on idle, but under engine revs water travels faster through the engine/rad and the pressure can force it out from minute cracks in the end plates.
It is a common problem on classic cars where the radiator fails, would ignore the engine temp as it does tend to stay in the middle, when it goes above the middle then damage has probably already occured.

SSSS 21 December 2005 06:05 PM

at the moment temp is fine and stays in the middle.

jaytc2003 21 December 2005 06:11 PM

pop the bonnet, let the car warm up, get a torch and then open the throttle by hand and aim the torch towards where the smoke is coming from.
I recently had to change my rad for the same reason probably about 4 - 5 weeks ago. Engine temp reached over 1 hundred degrees (read using a apexi commander) but the dash gauge didnt move above half way. Gauges tend to give you the info when its too late, like the oil pressure light for instance

SSSS 21 December 2005 06:15 PM

this is the first time the smoke has ever came, where should I get a rad from?, and how much is it going to cost?

are you sure its not steam from water surrounding the area,

jaytc2003 21 December 2005 06:35 PM

thats the idea of checking to see if it is that.
As I say it is a common problem so would look there first to see if that is what is causing it.

axgt_bwaii 21 December 2005 06:48 PM

water temp gauges are crap on scoobs. mine 93wrx stops rising when it gets to the middle. its "how they all are" aparrently.

stew

SSSS 21 December 2005 08:12 PM

more posts would be good

jaytc2003 21 December 2005 08:14 PM

told you what to look for. do it and post back, then once and if that is elimated we can move onto something else

rexabusa 21 December 2005 08:19 PM

i paid £100 off ebay for my rad, fitted it myself.
mines also cracked like you guys describe, only took me a while to discover as steam only belted out bonnet when car was moving:brickwall

ALi-B 21 December 2005 10:11 PM

Could be just some moisture built up on the radaitor, and the thermostat just poped open = steam (or the ac kicked in and boiled off any moisture off the condensor rad).

Check your coolant levels, if your not loosing any...stop worrying! ;)

LegacySTi 21 December 2005 10:21 PM

I'd say crack in the plastic bit or rad also.

SSSS 22 December 2005 06:29 PM

I had a look at my rad and I have lost some water, only a small amount about class full over a couple of weeks??

TonyBurns 22 December 2005 07:07 PM

Check the pressure cap, the rubber seal may be on its way out, you will see steam coming up from that :( (plus its cheaper than a radiator ;))

Tony:D

SSSS 23 December 2005 12:38 AM

pressure cap?, are you talking about the cap that covers the radiator?, that cap seems to be fine, the smoke was coming from the actual radiator unit, at the front of the car?

will start the car again tomorrow and make sur its not moisture.

SSSS 02 January 2006 01:13 PM

hi ppl
I been busy so i didnt have the time to check my subaru, but i managed to check it today.

I turned on the car and let it run for 8 to 10 min, temp was at middle, no smoke at all, i opened the bonnet and looked for smoke but i did not find any, car sounded very healthy.

i have lost some small amount of coolant, was the smoke likely to be due to the moisture??

SSSS 02 January 2006 02:49 PM

??

SSSS 03 January 2006 08:01 AM

?? any comments

jaytc2003 03 January 2006 08:20 AM

If it has stopped smoking then I would just keep a check on your coolant levels.

SSSS 03 January 2006 09:26 AM

is this normal?

jaytc2003 03 January 2006 09:42 AM

its not 'normal' but it can happen you can get condensation that evaporates off, specially in cold weather.

If you are in any doubt, take it to a specialist to get checked out.

SSSS 03 January 2006 09:51 AM

yeh i thought it was condensation, yesterday i let he car run on idle for 10min, temp needle at middle, open bonnet, i left the bonnet open for a few min and was standing at the front of car checking engine bay. with no smoke

SSSS 03 January 2006 10:38 AM

??

grahamfrary 03 January 2006 06:21 PM

You didn't say how long it had been running when the 'smoke' appeared. When starting from cold the thermostat will remain shut until the coolant reaches operating temperature. At that point the stat will open and there will be a sudden rush of hot water into the radiator. Any moisture or condensation on the rad at that time will boil off quickly looking like steam. As someone said earlier if its not using coolant stop worrying.

SSSS 03 January 2006 07:14 PM

the car was left running for 10min, idleing at a 1000revs and temp at middle.

SSSS 04 January 2006 02:36 PM

anymore commets???


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