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TheBigMan 15 November 2005 09:36 AM

The Sun - you're wrong on this (minor point).
 
;)

Charlotte Church's first quote is NOT incorrect.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,5-2005530032,00.html


....though what she meant was incorrect - dumb wench. ;)


SJ_Skyline 15 November 2005 09:39 AM

Dave Mustaine from Megadeth once said "It's great to be back in England" when playing Glasgow :lol1:

ALi-B 15 November 2005 09:41 AM

Well, she should have said North America, but it will suffice. :D

TheBigMan 15 November 2005 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by ALi-B
Well, she should have said North America, but it will suffice. :D

Not even necessary to say that.

Canada is no less "America" than the United states.

Canadians are far nicer though!! ;) When they say have a nice day they often mean it. :)

Here's a question though, people from the US, what are they called??????

USians??? lol

SJ_Skyline 15 November 2005 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by TheBigMan
Here's a question though, people from the US, what are they called??????

Crazy ;)

ALi-B 15 November 2005 09:54 AM

Fat :D

TheBigMan 15 November 2005 09:55 AM

Thick. (note the full stop not the question mark).

darts_aint_sport 15 November 2005 09:57 AM

I'd like to be pointed out to on a globe where it just says the land mass "America" ! :) Isn't it a bit like saying to someone that you are from Earth? That's why it's split into North and South, so to say you are from America when you are more specifically from Columbia for example, is a bit of a no-common-sense thing to do.

TheBigMan 15 November 2005 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by darts_aint_sport
I'd like to be pointed out to on a globe where it just says the land mass "America" ! :) Isn't it a bit like saying to someone that you are from Earth? That's why it's split into North and South, so to say you are from America when you are more specifically from Columbia for example, is a bit of a no-common-sense thing to do.

Yeah, sounds about right.

The land mass "America" is known as "The americas" - consisting of both North and South.

The common sense thing, for me suggests that if you are from either the US or Canada then you are "American", if you are from Brazil, Paraguay, Chile......"etc"...... then you are "South American".

Still, I'd still love to know what people from the US are actually called??

Canada - Canadians.

US - US...?!?!?!?

scoobydooooo 15 November 2005 10:57 AM

i suppose it's like people from norway and people from spain being called europeans !
:)

Wurzel 15 November 2005 11:11 AM

People from America are called Americans.
People from Britain are called Britains, (not so much used now though)
People from India are called Indians,
People from Germany are called Germans.

Do you get the picture? It ain't hard really :D

TheBigMan 15 November 2005 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Wurzel
People from America are called Americans.

Do you get the picture? It ain't hard really :D

Yes, we got that one....

However how do you differentiate the specific country "United States". With Canada, it's easy - "Canadians", but the country "United States" - how??

ALi-B 15 November 2005 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by TheBigMan

Still, I'd still love to know what people from the US are actually called??

Injuns, or native Americans, or immigrants

HTH :D ;)

TheBigMan 15 November 2005 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by ALi-B
Injuns, or native Americans, or immigrants

HTH :D ;)

PMSL.

Immensely!!!! :D :D

Leslie 15 November 2005 11:53 AM

Those famous people are so impressive though!

Les

Markus 15 November 2005 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by TheBigMan
Not even necessary to say that.

Canada is no less "America" than the United states.

Canadians are far nicer though!! ;) When they say have a nice day they often mean it. :)

Here's a question though, people from the US, what are they called??????

USians??? lol

Have to disagree there. Canada is, thankfully, less American than the US. It's a bit more British and French (due to the weird Quebecers). Canadain's understand irony, the majority of yanks do not. Canadian's tend to be quieter and maybe a little more reserved, they happen to know there is a world outside their borders as well. This is unlike some other country I could mention.

As for what people from the US are called, well, US Citizens would be one thing, Fat, Annoying wankers would actually be my preference.

NotoriousREV 15 November 2005 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by TheBigMan
Yes, we got that one....

However how do you differentiate the specific country "United States". With Canada, it's easy - "Canadians", but the country "United States" - how??

The specific country is "The United States of America" hence "Americans".

Markus 15 November 2005 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
The specific country is "The United States of America" hence "Americans".

Bingo, was about to post that in addition.

Canadian's tend to be upset if not more than a little annoyed if they are mistakently called "American". As Rose just mentioned to me, calling a Cannuck a Yank can cause the same offence as if you said that someone from Scotland or Wales was English, or if you said the Turkish and Greek people were the same.

Jap2Scrap 15 November 2005 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Wurzel
People from America are called Americans.
People from Britain are called Britains, (not so much used now though)
People from India are called Indians,
People from Germany are called Germans.

Do you get the picture? It ain't hard really :D

Actually it's Britons. Small point maybe but as this is a pedantic thread, what the hell ;)

TheBigMan 15 November 2005 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Markus
Bingo, was about to post that in addition.

Canadian's tend to be upset if not more than a little annoyed if they are mistakently called "American". As Rose just mentioned to me, calling a Cannuck a Yank can cause the same offence as if you said that someone from Scotland or Wales was English, or if you said the Turkish and Greek people were the same.

I'll reply to all the above.

Here goes <cough cough - straightens cuffs and collar> :)

The country "Canada" is Canada - Canadian.

The country the "United States" - is that, the US.


Both countries form "North America", so they are both American. However, for some reason the country "US" has been, for some reason just been called "America" - which is not correct (probably due to the united states "of America" - so everyone just says america). If everyone had called Canada "America" that would equally be incorrect - but concurently, equally as CORRECT.

The term "America" - many now associate to the US and the US only, including people from the US and Canada, hence why Canadians don't like to be refered to as American (as its saying that they are from the US so to speak). However people from the "US" and people from "Canada" are equally as "American" as both countries form "America".

The issue, as said, is with word asociation, for some reason (probably cos The US is often called the US'A') whereby people, instead of referring to the US as the US, they refer to it as "America" - however this has not happened to Canada, as Canada isn't commonly referred to as "Canada of America" - but in fact it is exactly that.

American "culture" (and i use that term losely) is more potent in the United States, Candian culture is, as said, more european, laid back and nicer - for want of a better term.

I know it seems higgledy-piggledy but it's true.

If (and please forgive me for the crudeness of this) If the "US" had been called "The united States of Canada", (with Canada also being the continents name) and Canada had been called simply "America" then, in this case, the word "Canada" would be associated to people from the "US" and people in America would want to be called "American" and not Canadian - cos of the asociation to the country where the fat people live.

PMSL - christ my head hurts now. :D


This summarizes it beautifully. The "US" are as American as "Canada", "Peru", "Mexico".

http://www.webometrics.info/universi...nt=america.htm


The US is called that as the country consists of 'states' that are 'united', and they are "of" America - but they together are not America in it's entirety.

Word association has meant that the United States is now called, by many, America. Though this is totally wrong, equaly as wrong as calling Canada "America" or ANY other country in the contienent of America.

TheBigMan 15 November 2005 02:23 PM

btt - didn't write all that for nothing!!!! ;)

(post #20)

Sticky Stuff 15 November 2005 04:13 PM

I thought the quote was "I love being in America"

Which would make all this geographical twaddle redundant. Regardless of where she was when she said it, the statement was "I love being in America"

She could have been in South Wales at the time, it's still a statement of fact.

I know that's probably not the context in which it was said, but technically she's said nowt wrong.

My 2p :)

davegtt 15 November 2005 04:19 PM

What do we call people from the US?

Trigger Happy.... ?

TheBigMan 15 November 2005 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by davegtt
What do we call people from the US?

Trigger Happy.... ?

Exactly.

Q. What do we call people from America??

A. A mixed bunch indeed!!


That's what I'm getting at, the US have managed to adopt a name for itself encompassing the ENTIRE continent!!!

The US is NOT America!!! America is!!!!!

Brit_in_Japan 15 November 2005 07:08 PM

What language do "Americans" speak?

Believe it or not some actaully think they speak "American" :freak3:

CrisPDuk 15 November 2005 07:17 PM

A Canadian is what you get if you mix predominantly Scottish & French blood with a smattering of others.
A Yank is what you get if you mix English, Irish & Italian blood then light the blue touchpaper.

As to descriptions my own preference would be Righteous Redneck:)

Markus 15 November 2005 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by Brit_in_Japan
What language do "Americans" speak?

Believe it or not some actaully think they speak "American" :freak3:

What do they speak? *******ised English, and badly at that! Does not surprise me in the least that some of them think they speak American.

TheBigMan 15 November 2005 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Markus
What do they speak? *******ised English, and badly at that! Does not surprise me in the least that some of them think they speak American.

Did you see my post #19

Did it make sense or did you read it, laugh and say "what-o-de-fooocky?"

TheBigMan 16 November 2005 10:04 AM

God bless Canada.

scunnered 16 November 2005 10:24 AM

What do we call people from the USA?
Well how about a "Texan", a "Californian" or a "New Yorker", etc. It's just the same as calling a South American person a "Brazilian", or a "Peruvian". So you can refer to them from their continent, as in North/South American, or by there regional area.


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