Are you anti or pro-monarchist?
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As a general principal or in a specific context?
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For me anti, purely as in todays society they have no power.
If they had ultimate power of veto over parliament it may be different. |
Originally Posted by OllyK
As a general principal or in a specific context?
But general context comments welcome... |
I heard the monarchy cost me the grand sum of £1.50p last year. If that's the case, I couldn't give a stuff whether they stay or go. It can only be good for the country because of the old tourism cliché.
I can't really see a downside to be honest. |
only reason Im against is whos paying for their wealth....
apart from that, dont give 2 hoots. must admit them being here and our monarch history brings in a fair bit of tourism so its probably all balenced out in that effect |
i luv the queen she causes no one harm, we waste our money on **** i might as well give the good queen a good wage so stop complaining about it, her family have been the monarchs here for decades and decades
and i do luv prince charles :D im glad we have a monarchy, its nice to have a symbol of a country a queen like |
Originally Posted by Angry
For me anti, purely as in todays society they have no power.
If they had ultimate power of veto over parliament it may be different. |
Pro monarchy simply for the fact its part of British history and culture and something many countries don't have. And yes the economy does benefit from them as tourism in London would be a lot less without the flocks of foreigners every year going to see Buckingham Palace.
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Really they still have that power?
God I would love to see the Queen slap Tony on the wrist and say "Now then dear fellow, lets drop these silly ID cards shall we?" :D |
Originally Posted by GC8
The monarch has the power of veto.
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Originally Posted by davegtt
only reason Im against is whos paying for their wealth....
apart from that, dont give 2 hoots. must admit them being here and our monarch history brings in a fair bit of tourism so its probably all balenced out in that effect Simon |
Originally Posted by Reality
Are you sure - I thought that was repealed a few hundred years ago in return for some Royals head :D.
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Originally Posted by CoobyS
UK Context
But general context comments welcome... I think in a wider context that a monarchy with power is pretty dangerous, people have to stand on their own merits and not those of their forefathers. A monarchy with power is unlikely to be much better than a dictatorship (I can't think of any examples). A monarchy without power, is fine if it provides a benefit to its people. |
Originally Posted by GC8
Im sure; I keep hoping that the Queen will refuse to ratify each new piece of NL bollocks, but so far she hasnt...
Originally Posted by Queenies Website
As constitutional monarch, the Sovereign is required, on the advice of Ministers, to assent to all Bills. The Royal Assent (that is, consenting to a measure becoming law) has not been refused since 1707. The role of the Sovereign in the enactment of legislation is today purely formal, although The Queen has the right to be consulted, to encourage and to warn.
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Not only does the Queen have the right of assent to bills but she also has the right to summon, prorogue, or dissolve Parliament. By that I understand that she could reject the government and call another election if she wished.
Maybe she should go up in your estimation Angry. Les :) |
In an age where Britain is losing a lot of icons to commercialism, being a member or the EU or just modern blandness I find the Royal family one of the few remaining bastions of Britishness. It is a symbol of longevity and pride which I think no other country in the world has anything like it.
Charles, for example, works tirelessly for his country preserving it's heritage and helps many charities, an extremely intelligent man, yet he has been marginalised by society because of their superficial love of Diana and the fact he isn't handsome or trendy. The Queen is also a fair upstanding woman and who I think has also contributed much to this country. We are better off with them, not just because of the tourist dollar (Believe me, tourist numbers would drop considerably if there were no Royals) but because they represent Britain. To get rid of them and have this country represented by nothing other than loathsome political individuals in grey suits and plastic smiles would be a tragedy. The Queen and the Royal family give this country an enormous amount of goodwill overseas, they are greatly admired by world statesmen, I don't think I would be wrong in saying that most world leaders would rather meet the Queen than Tony Blair. (and have more respect) |
Dissolve Parliament....
Just had a vision of Prince Philip holding Jack Straw by his ankles in a big barrel of acid :lol1: |
Originally Posted by Leslie
Not only does the Queen have the right of assent to bills but she also has the right to summon, prorogue, or dissolve Parliament. By that I understand that she could reject the government and call another election if she wished.
Maybe she should go up in your estimation Angry. Les :) |
Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Charles, for example, works tirelessly for his country preserving it's heritage and helps many charities, an extremely intelligent man, yet he has been marginalised by society because of their superficial love of Diana and the fact he isn't handsome or trendy.
http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/trus..._medicine.html If there was actually a shred of evidence that any of this stuff worked before he advocated it, it may be different. |
Pro-monarchy myself .
Not surprised so many voted "dont give a toss" though, as that seems to be the general attitude of the younger generation of today about most things , which I think is a real shame. Chip |
Total monarchist myself.
As for the relatively tiny amount of money they cost the state being an issue - even if tourist revenue is ignored - just consider the amount of money that is genuinely wasted by government every year. Clear up these billions before worrying about the royal list. If hundreds of years of tradition and heritage is unimportant, we might as well get rid of listed buildings and forget about heritage sites. Just concrete the whole country over while we're about it. As for any issues with infidelity and morals, let he who has not sinned cast the first stone. If you really don't give a toss about the royal family, in my opinion, it is part of the decline of society in general. |
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