300 bhp from a WRX
Guys, what/who would you recommend to see about getting 300bhp from a '02 WRX and how much do you reckon it would cost?
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300 not a good figure 280bhp ish would be remap , decat, air filter
ecu tek remap £700 ish full decat exhaust system £500 ish , second hand pannel filter £50 330bhp would also need sti turbo, injectors and intercooler vf35 turbo £350 ish second hand STI 8 intercooler £200 ish second hand STI 8 injectors £300 ish second hand |
Pump and reg too.
MB |
One recorded case of 312bhp at PE's rollers with exhaust, panel filter, fuel pump and APS TMIC on the standard turbo. Two other cases I know of with 298 and 299 at PE on the standard turbo (one of those also had the APS TMIC). Mine - like several others - makes mid-low 280s on PEs rollers, second occasion I was there it was only 1bhp behind an STi PPP.
However, I'd lay decent odds against making 300 at some other rolling roads (e.g. powerstation, at least before they moved) |
It would of course, cost you nothing had you bought a real car, like an Evo;)
Don't waste yer money on more power, get some decent brakes instead. |
Did the original question say "I want a faster car that is less easy to live with day to day than a WRX"? Did anyone say whether they had already upgraded the brakes? (I know I have). You could always try just being helpful. :p
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Originally Posted by hades
Did the original question say "I want a faster car that is less easy to live with day to day than a WRX"? Did anyone say whether they had already upgraded the brakes? (I know I have). You could always try just being helpful. :p
If he wants an 'easy to live with car' why look to upgrade his WRX? Why not buy a car that was actually designed for 300bhp in the first place? |
Bet you ten internet pounds you'd have bet I hadn't thought of upgrading the brakes if I hadn't already said I had! ;) Just goes to show you never know. :p
Personally, I find my mildly modded 02 WRX (284bhp but with a quiet exhaust, tweaked brakes etc) is a much better compromise for doing plenty of long journeys and occassional fun than an EVO would be. The mods make the car much more pleasant to drive with 260lbft come 70mph in top gear, for example. If I wanted a quick car for weekends, EVO would be higher on my list than WRX, but still below e.g. Caterham or Noble. EVO's are great, but not the right compromise for everybody. Same with WRX's, modded or otherwise. Anyway, we digress. The poster was asking how to get ~ 300bhp out of an 02WRX. The answers are potentially above. |
Originally Posted by hades
Bet you ten internet pounds you'd have bet I hadn't thought of upgrading the brakes if I hadn't already said I had! ;) Just goes to show you never know. :p
Personally, I find my mildly modded 02 WRX (284bhp but with a quiet exhaust, tweaked brakes etc) is a much better compromise for doing plenty of long journeys and occassional fun than an EVO would be. The mods make the car much more pleasant to drive with 260lbft come 70mph in top gear, for example. If I wanted a quick car for weekends, EVO would be higher on my list than WRX, but still below e.g. Caterham or Noble. EVO's are great, but not the right compromise for everybody. Same with WRX's, modded or otherwise. Anyway, we digress. The poster was asking how to get ~ 300bhp out of an 02WRX. The answers are potentially above. Living with an Evo day to day? Well the wife drives hers daily, it's one of the few cars our kids are not travel sick in. Having covered about 40k miles in a 5 & previously a 6 really don't see the issue about living with them. Any way, back on topic, the answer is, ask yourself why you want 300bhp? what about 287.5 or 319.6? Get some brakes or trade it in and buy a car that was built for it in the first place, like an Evo. Or even save up for a fast car:D |
Much safer bets include someone tomorrow posting "which exhaust?" or "I just got done for speeding, how do I get off?" ;) But seriously, I can't deny many people ignore the brakes, agree they need tweaking too.
You can live with any car - my brother's daily driver for over a year was a Fisher Fury with a leaky soft top (which would also merrily slaughter an EVO on a dry road). However, personally find I can drive 8 hours in the WRX after a day at work, wouldn't fancy that in an EVO. Not saying you're wrong, just that people are different. I don't want 300bhp - I doubt the extra 16 will make very much difference over my 284, which I'm usually happy with. To be honest, my advice to the original poster re:engine mods would be to go with exhaust, panel filter or cold air kit (depending on which you like the noise from), ideally samco turbo inlet and intercooler hoses (£250ish), maybe ported headers, maybe uprated TMIC (STi £250 s/h or preferably an APS £600 new), definitely a TEK re-map. You'll end up with at least 280bhp in a nicely sorted drive that's still reliable, maybe 300 if you do all of the above. Spend any extra money on brakes (at least do the pads, braided hoses), and maybe suspension tweaks (at the very least, get the alignment done!) P.S. - blot, I could afford a genuuinely fast car now, but rarely use the full potential of my fairly fast one, so am happier to have a very fat bank account. :p:D |
I dont want 300bhp for my wrx either ;)
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Originally Posted by hades
You can live with any car - my brother's daily driver for over a year was a Fisher Fury with a leaky soft top (which would also merrily slaughter an EVO on a dry road). However, personally find I can drive 8 hours in the WRX after a day at work, wouldn't fancy that in an EVO. Not saying you're wrong, just that people are different. Fisher Fury-slaughter Evo, not just a dry road required, also guarantee of no straights longer than 100 yards and no chance of having to stop quickly:freak3:
Originally Posted by hades
P.S. - blot, I could afford a genuuinely fast car now, but rarely use the full potential of my fairly fast one, so am happier to have a very fat bank account. :p:D Having both= priceless:p |
Originally Posted by blot
next thing you'll be saying you have to get up two hours before you go to bed, eat gravel for breakfast and then get on yer hands and knees and lick t'road clean etc etc
Originally Posted by blot
Having both= priceless
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Originally Posted by hades
I consider my car is fast enough, so I'll claim to be part of that too. :D Sell slow car buy Evo & fast weekend car, you know it makes sense, before it's too late.. Back on topic, how to get 300 bhp, buy (snigger)gold wheels? Spend money on trackdays or driver training or both instead of some cruddy upgrades which will make your family saloon harder to sell;) |
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Originally Posted by chrisp
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got a later graph with 337bhp on a colder day but dont want to send you to sleep lol
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LOL not even 300lb/ft torque! That's the point I was making originally though, WRX is a good car, but why try to do something to it that it wasn't designed or engineered for?
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its the only graph on here isnt an evo 276bhp, not even 300bhp !! :D
oh and its 1240kgs kerb weight and has a 19.7mph/1000rpm 5th ratio |
still has a d/p cat as well so fully road legal
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Originally Posted by blot
LOL not even 300lb/ft torque! That's the point I was making originally though, WRX is a good car, but why try to do something to it that it wasn't designed or engineered for?
Designed or engineered for ???? Going from A to B - yep does that |
Originally Posted by chrisp
its the only graph on here isnt an evo 276bhp, not even 300bhp !!
Mitsubishi have now even brought out a 260 bhp model just for WRX drivers to trade up to, just in case there necks are not used to acceleration and they need to be broken in gently :D |
Originally Posted by chrisp
Designed or engineered for ????
Going from A to B - yep does that Point I am/was making was people are better spending their money on either better brakes and/or driver training/trackdays. Oh and why state 300bhp? Where does that figure come from? Yes, WRX is a good car, but why try to turn it into something it isn't? |
Mine is a typeRA (race altered by the factory) built for group N spec rallying. What am I trying to turn it into ? :D
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Originally Posted by chrisp
Mine is a typeRA (race altered by the factory) built for group N spec rallying. What am I trying to turn it into ? :D
Just nip down to any subaru dealership and buy a limited edition race altered car. Bet that is easy to live with and a comfy ride,not like a nasty rough Evo, then again maybe it was built as a homologation model and is actually just the shell that rally prep companies then gut and put DECENT BRAKES on:) Same question to an Evo owner? Turn the key;):D:D |
Originally Posted by blot
So does a perodua kelisa.
Point I am/was making was people are better spending their money on either better brakes and/or driver training/trackdays. Oh and why state 300bhp? Where does that figure come from? Yes, WRX is a good car, but why try to turn it into something it isn't? TBH honest I can see where you are coming from. I have uprated my brakes, wheels and tyres and it only gone up 45-55bhp from 276bhp. Suppose 300bhp is the magic figure if you have 200 and something bhp theres only 2bhp between 299bhp and 301bhp but 301bhp sounds so much more. Next target 400bhp :D |
Originally Posted by chrisp
TBH honest I can see where you are coming from. I have uprated my brakes, wheels and tyres and it only gone up 45-55bhp from 276bhp.
Originally Posted by chrisp
Suppose 300bhp is the magic figure if you have 200 and something bhp theres only 2bhp between 299bhp and 301bhp but 301bhp sounds so much more.
Next target 400bhp :D Any way, they are all nice cars, if you like slow ones........ |
feck how boring... silly boys,
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Originally Posted by richir rich
feck how boring... silly boys,
Take it you also have a slow WRX then? |
gold wheels, might have ;)
trouble with that fq400 for me is that for 47K I only get an extra 14bhp/ton 272bhp/ton mine 286bhp/ton fq400 |
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