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gpssti4 08 November 2004 12:14 PM

6 speed box in a classic???
 
Has anyone fitted a newage 6 speed box into a classic? (Of course they have) Then can someone advise the cost and any other implications - diffs, driveshafts, mounts, transmission tunnel etc, etc. I'm looking for longer gearing on my type R, I suppose I could fit a taller 5th gear - motorway cruising and the like!

cong 08 November 2004 12:37 PM

speak to api david

gpssti4 08 November 2004 12:44 PM

Thanks, have you got a phone number for API - or an HTML???
Thanks

APIDavid 08 November 2004 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by gpssti4
Thanks, have you got a phone number for API - or an HTML???
Thanks

01926 614333

Adam M 08 November 2004 04:10 PM

jap transfer case will be required, normally with a Jap box, and that means your top speed will increase slightly but I would imagine gears are still a bit frantic.

Cool :cool:

cong 08 November 2004 04:54 PM

bloody magic!

olliecampbell 08 November 2004 05:27 PM

Post back when you have a price :)

powercrazed 08 November 2004 07:00 PM

have had a 6speed fitted to my 94 wrx. the kit supplied by api included:- jap spec 6speed, auto prop shaft, a 3.9 rear diff and all the linkages. my local garage fitted the box. it had to be modified to fit the starter and the rear dif mounts needed a bit of tweaking. i think my bill was about £2250 supplied and fitted. very, very pleased with it. hope this is of help to you.

nathan

gpssti4 09 November 2004 10:58 AM

Yes it does. Thanks to all for the information. I guess I'll start saving to fit one myself.

The Fixer 13 November 2004 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Adam M
jap transfer case will be required, normally with a Jap box, .

Cool :cool:

:confused:

911 13 November 2004 04:55 PM

Bit confused myself!
I thought the rear diff 'bolted in' straight swop?
Seen recently that someone had difficulty with the starter motor from the stock car with the 6 speeder, ie classic s/motor and 6 speeder.(similarly the speedo cable/drive)
Also, API would only sell a matching set of jap box/jap rear diff, so the transfer gearing would be cpmpatible (and 1:1)

Are these myths or fact?

911 :norty:

APIDavid 13 November 2004 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by 911
Bit confused myself!
I thought the rear diff 'bolted in' straight swop?
Seen recently that someone had difficulty with the starter motor from the stock car with the 6 speeder, ie classic s/motor and 6 speeder.(similarly the speedo cable/drive)
Also, API would only sell a matching set of jap box/jap rear diff, so the transfer gearing would be cpmpatible (and 1:1)

Are these myths or fact?

911 :norty:

We've sold about a dozen 6 speed 'kits' and some need a starter and some don't appear to. Dunno why ??

Speedo is no problem as you can either fit the cable gizmo in the 6 speed, or the electronic one just works by connecting as normal.

If you use a JDM 6 speed dccd or standard you will need a rear diff of 3.9:1 ratio. The JDM box is shorter geared in 5th and 6th than the UK one and thus you will lose up to 10 mph off your top speed depending upon your ability to rev out in 6th gear. At 8000 rpm [ if you can get there ] you'll be VERY close to 200 mph whichever [JDM or Euro ] box you use. I for one would not wish to be in an lmpreza at that speed.

David APi Engines / APi Impreza.

PS: I have just one 6 speed dccd set left [ gearbox, shift linkage and prop ] until about another 6 or 8 arrive from Japan in later December. We have 3.9 rear diffs in stock sort of permanently; R160 or R180 type.

P20SPD 13 November 2004 07:22 PM

David, reason some need a starter is that, pre MY98 (iirc) have a different starter motor to MY98 onwards. ie the post MY98 ones are smaller, and consequently just drop in.

steven

DreXeL 13 November 2004 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by P20SPD
David, reason some need a starter is that, pre MY98 (iirc) have a different starter motor to MY98 onwards. ie the post MY98 ones are smaller, and consequently just drop in.

steven

Surely that would be pre 97 as the 97/98 cars share the same engine (Phase 1.5)??

911 14 November 2004 08:08 AM

David, thanks for the info. Still getting the wife to save like mad :D
Hope to discuss the topic with you in Jan/feb.

ps: Can you supply the loom/black box (if there is one) for the dccd version as part of the 'kit'?

Regards, Graham.

M0NEY 15 November 2004 09:41 PM

Think my starter motor was fine with MY95 wrx.

David, at 8000rpm you will be very close to 200mph whichever box you use? That doesnt apply for Jap.

At 3000rpm in 6th im at 70. When im near 7000rpm, i think im about 140mph. So long way off 200mph even if i could go to 8000rpm


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