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jk100 15 June 2004 09:54 AM

Radar Detectors in France...
 
... are not allowed.

I knew that, which is why I took mine off and carefully stored it in the boot. However, foolishly, I still left the "sucker" attachments on the windscreen.

Driving back from Le Mans yesterday I was stopped at one of the French Police road blocks who spotted the attachment on the windscreen and asked whether I had a detector. I replied no, and said I knew that they were not allowed in France.

He said he didn't believe me, and that I should hand it over. I carried on denying that I had one. He then said that he would search my car plus I would have a €750 fine, or confiscation of the Impreza. I subsequently managed to reduce this to €450, and then produced my Valentine One (cost C. £499) from the boot. He then confiscated this, and my passport, whilst I then went to a cashpoint to pay the fine.

So I had to pay €450 and lose my Valentine One - and what was the offence that I was committing? I'm still speechless, and I'm not sure that there's anything I can do. And to put it in perspective, a friend of mine was stopped doing 120 mph and was fined €90!!

Just a warning for anyone else travelling in France I guess....

Paulo P 15 June 2004 10:45 AM

W@nkers :mad: I can understand if you were using it but while it was in your boot :eek:

Poor Guy 15 June 2004 10:55 AM

get a french lawyer to find out if its legal to have it in your boot.

alcazar 15 June 2004 10:56 AM

<<<And to put it in perspective, a friend of mine was stopped doing 120 mph and was fined €90!!>>>

Well he got off light then as the fines for speeding over there are awful.

Even if he was on the motorway where the limit is 130kph, he was 40mph (or 70 kph) over, so that takes him outside the "50 above" rule, and could have seen him get a massive fine, plus immediate loss of license, immobilisation of car and appearance before a magistrate the next day with a possible 14 day jail sentence:eek:

As far as radar detectors are concerned, why on earth didn't you leave it at home??? It's an offence to POSSESS one over there, let alone use it.:(:

Alcazar

alcazar 15 June 2004 10:57 AM

<<<get a french lawyer to find out if its legal to have it in your boot>>>

No, it's not:(:

See my post above.

Alcazar

Daz34 15 June 2004 11:31 AM

Barstewards :(
Are you a football fan?
I just want to understand the extent of your misery.

Daz

Bravo2zero_sps 15 June 2004 11:44 AM

So £300 fine and loss of a £499 piece of kit? :eek: And people wonder why we hate the French so much - France would be such a nice place without them ;)

Thieving fcukers :mad:

Edited to add that the fine I agree with btw as the law is the law but its the confiscation thats wrong. They should allow you to have the option to pay for it to be posted home to you where it is legal to own it - they have no right to take it from you and destroy it :mad:

scoobydooooo 15 June 2004 12:15 PM

i know it's a sh**e state of affairs but it is their law , end of story , it's no use saying they are a bunch of to%%ers , which they are ! , but you break the law you pay for it :D

2000TLondon 15 June 2004 12:44 PM

Is there any point to saying it was "stolen" in France, which in a way it sort of was, ish, kind of, and claiming on the insurance?

Jiggerypokery 15 June 2004 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by 2000TLondon
Is there any point to saying it was "stolen" in France, which in a way it sort of was, ish, kind of, and claiming on the insurance?

For that, you would probably have to report the theft to the local police at the time of the theft ;)

Wurzel 15 June 2004 12:51 PM

does this apply to Laser jammers aswell???

I don't have a radar detector but I do have a Blinder M10 fitted but not wired up yet.

ajm 15 June 2004 12:56 PM

Well that 800 quids worth of damage you have to cause to France next time you are over there! :D

Brendan Hughes 15 June 2004 01:00 PM

Daz34 - :D:D:D

And just when I was about to quip about the Scots preferring the French...

Jaybird-UK 15 June 2004 01:14 PM

I wrap mine up in a towel (inc. sticky bracket) and place in side boot compartment. I even clean the little circle marks left by the suckers ;)

In france it is the device that is illegal, not just the use of one - I think the next time I go I may even leave it at home.

read this, its scary!

http://www.racfoundation.org/releases/300404rac.htm

Originally Posted by RAC Foundation
Speed Detector Fact File:

Definitive information on the legality/illegality of using the devices in individual European and Scandinavian countries is difficult to establish but France, Belgium, Greece, Austria, Turkey, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Ireland, and Norway all operate bans and will shortly be joined by Spain. The best advice in other states is to either check with the local police before travelling or play safe and remove the device completely.

The harshest potential punishment is levied in Luxembourg where a custodial sentence of between eight days and three years is possible. The Republic of Ireland also deals harshly with offenders and a six month prison sentence is possible.

France, the country most likely to be visited by Brits, can deprive you of your car, licence and up to 1500 Euros if you are caught with a speed detection device.

Speed detection devices were illegal in the UK until 1999 when a decision by the High Court reversed the ruling, although the Government is proposing to make secondary legislation to ban their installation and use once again – creating an offence which would attract a maximum fine of £1000 and six penalty points.


Jerome 15 June 2004 01:23 PM

It's about time the UK boycotts France and everything French.

Soap dodging, garlic munching, surrender monkeys.

ProperCharlie 15 June 2004 01:29 PM

so what are you saying - that the french are wrong to have a law that you disagree with? the device is illegal, the owner got found out, and now feels hard done by. i thought you lot were all in favour of law and order, or is it a case of "only when it suits my personal agenda"?

ajm 15 June 2004 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by ProperCharlie
so what are you saying - that the french are wrong to have a law that you disagree with? the device is illegal, the owner got found out, and now feels hard done by. i thought you lot were all in favour of law and order, or is it a case of "only when it suits my personal agenda"?

Lets not pretend it is anything but a daft, petty law that is being used to target British motorists in France!

Dracoro 15 June 2004 01:50 PM

Are you seriously suggesting that the French govt. spent loads of time writing up a law to 'target' the small number of citizens from a foreign country who have rader detectors? :rolleyes: MOST british citizens driving in france do not have these detectors and of the ones that do, the smart ones leave theirs at home.

ajm 15 June 2004 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Dracoro
Are you seriously suggesting that the French govt. spent loads of time writing up a law to 'target' the small number of citizens from a foreign country who have rader detectors? :rolleyes: MOST british citizens driving in france do not have these detectors and of the ones that do, the smart ones leave theirs at home.

Of course not... I don't suppose it took them very long to write at all! ;)

Jaybird-UK 15 June 2004 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by ProperCharlie
so what are you saying - that the french are wrong to have a law that you disagree with? the device is illegal, the owner got found out, and now feels hard done by. i thought you lot were all in favour of law and order, or is it a case of "only when it suits my personal agenda"?

A very sensible reply, I personally use a radar detector but the law is the law.

jk100 15 June 2004 02:13 PM

The point is that this law is not well known, and the authorities in France probably like to keep it that way. Read any websites on motoring in France (like the AA) and it will mention the need for warning triangles, spare bulbs etc... but nothing about radar detection equipment.

Whilst it's common sense not to use it, it's a fairly draconian measure to make it illegal to have one in your possession. It's hardly a hard drug is it?

ProperCharlie 15 June 2004 02:19 PM

i think it is fairly well known that they are illegal. i agree that it isa fairly draconian law, but the point being that if you have one in your boot, what's to stop you getting it out of the boot once you have got 1/2 a mile down the road? if they are ilegal to use, they may as well be illegal to own as well.

Dracoro 15 June 2004 02:20 PM


Read any websites on motoring in France (like the AA) and it will mention the need for warning triangles, spare bulbs etc... but nothing about radar detection equipment.
yes they do

http://www.theaa.com/allaboutcars/ov...al_advice.html

EvilKyote 15 June 2004 02:45 PM

Thats bloody rediculous, you should sue them for excessive use of thier powers and theft,

TelBoy 15 June 2004 03:12 PM

LOL - what, for doing the job they're paid to do, EK?

Can i have a friendly £1,000 on the outcome of that particular court case? :D

Geezer 15 June 2004 03:13 PM

Why would anyone need to use a radar detection device anyway? Surely they are only to avoid getting caught breaking the law, which you shouldn't do anyway (ok, I know we all do it but you see my point).

Whether the law is well known or not is irrelevant. It is your responsibility to find out what you can or cannot do when visiting a foreign country. Ignorance is no defence in law. I'm sure there are lots of laws that trip up visitors to the UK because they are not well known, but I don't see anyone moaning about them.

Geezer

EvilKyote 15 June 2004 03:25 PM

was being over zealous! :P but still, conferscating it when it was in the boot and not in use! he could have had a perfectly valid reason for having it.

TelBoy 15 June 2004 03:31 PM

In the UK, perhaps. But the French law is the French law.

And they're unlikely to show much sympathy to us Brits now, are they? :)

Geezer 15 June 2004 03:33 PM

Not if owning one is illegal. It's like saying it's ok to carry an AK47 in your boot as long as you don't use it :D

Geezer

ProperCharlie 15 June 2004 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by EvilKyote
he could have had a perfectly valid reason for having it.


like what?

"i was only looking after it for a friend?"


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