Has anyone got any recommendations on what I can fit to my '98 Terzo (without breaking the bank), it was on 215/40/17 Toyos when I got it, seemed good in wet & dry but were very noisy. I nearly went for Avon ZZ1's, but found out at the 11th hour that they were noisier than Toyos. Instead I plumped for BF Goodrich profilers - big mistake, twitchy in the dry, totally crap (but good for drifting around the corners) in the wet!

Unfortunately I can't run to Pirellis!

Bridgestone SO2 Pole Position. Very good in both the dry & wet. Allow for an extended run-in period from new though.

Cant fault Goodyear F1. WTS in Willesden do them at approx £70 + vat per tye for 4

Goodyear F1's for me too - Love 'em (always had a thing about rubber!)

Nick - We noticed that the S02's needed about 600 miles or so beore they start to give their best - we have them on a Volvo C70 GT

Paul

[This message has been edited by Paul Habgood (edited 02 January 2001).]

Hi Guys,

I too am looking for replacement tires.

I see that you rate the goodyear F1's pretty high. Do they grip the road very well in both the wet and dry?

Performance is my main concern....I need them to hold the road..

I have a MY00 with rear box and performance centre cat..

Thanks

The overall consensus seems to be towards SO2's, with Goodyear F1's and Toyo T1S's coming a cheaper and nearly as good second.

I plumped for the Toyo's and found them to be very good, and £10 to £30 cheaper per corner depending on where you buy them.
Toyo's can be had for around £70/80 all in with S02's at the cheapest I heard of £100 (I found them for £125)

Just my two penny's worth.... http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/smile.gif

Darren.

From what Ive seen in tests and heard on the grapevine the SO2 is the best tyre overall, with regard to grip, wet & dry, braking distance, tyre noise,wear and straight line running, although the F1 is a close second as it has slightly better perormance in the wet, the tread pattern was designed with the help of schumacher for the F1 ferrari team in '97, (obviously for full wet running), which is where the name comes from.

I have a MY 00 with Prodrive 17's and P zeros. In the wet I notice a mild understeer, but assume this is natural? Would Prodrive not test, supply, fit (and charge for)the supposed best for the car?


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John,

Who supplies the tyres for their rally cars??

I have Pzero's on mine though 16" seem fine, came with them and replaced like with like when worn. have not tried any others though, cost £375 for four fitted!!!

If it's wet at Oulton perhaps a assesment could be done of the different tyres??

Mark

P-Zeros are a good tyre, but as stated before, they are old technology, and well superceded by the SO2s, G/year F1s and even T1-Ss in the wet.

Prodrive fit them as they are about the best tyre that comes in the (unusual) ideal fit size for the 17" wheels - 205/45/17. With most other manufacturers you will have to go for 215/40/17. Pirelli also supply the WRC tyres, and are cheaper than *better* tyres http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/wink.gif

Best tyres are the SO2s (c£125 17" - c£100 16", but if on a tighter budget the toyos or F1s are very good also-rans (c£75 & £95)

Just my thoughts but I have Toyo's fitted to my car cos I'm not looking for ultimate grip as I like to slide the car about wherever it is safe to do so - exiting roundabouts, lift-off oversteer, etc, and like to feel the 4WD working. If you are a balls-out driver everywhere then I think the general opinion is that the Bridgestones are he best option.

Thanks for the advice guys...

I will try the F1's

I hope that they hold the road

Paul (SO2's)

I find that the run-in is near 1000 miles or 1 month for me. I believe that this is due to the very square profile of the tyres & this seems to make them take longer to settle onto the car.

I've got F1's (215/40x17) on my GT, and they've been more than up to it, in the wet and on track days. They're very good vaule for money, and they seem to be "fairly" wear resistant. http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/wink.gif

Only "negative" thing about them is the grip, almost too good, they tend to "snap" loose on the edge.

/Jerry - Sweden

I replaced all 4 tyres with PZeros about 2 weeks ago. Quite impressed so far and I think that they are better than the Toyos T1-SI had previously (in the wet anyway).

Its probably too early to tell however.

D.

I have a set of GY F1's and they are brilliant , especially in the wet . They grip well from new unlike SO2's which need running in plus they are £40 each cheaper .
I paid £320 + vat for mine . They tend to let go progessively rather than suddenly like some tyres I've had (Falken , Fulda) which lead to brown trouser moments . Makes 4-wheel drifts easier to control albeit at higher speeds because of the better level of grip available .

The "snapping" incident was at the last track day, never happened on regular roads. http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/biggrin.gif

SecretAgent

How bad do the F1's snap loose? How hard do you push them for them to snap loose? I don't particularly want them snapping loose on me as I accelerate hard into and out of a corner along the cliff roads in Trinidad

Thanks for the advice in advance

Thanks SecretAgentMan....I was a bit worried about the F1's snapping loose at an inappropriate moment..

I believe that the reviews on the F1's on this board are supportive...

I will let you all know