Hi people,

Taking the sccob for a run round the ring (so to speak haha) on my way to Switzerland and Italy for a week. This may sound like a very silly question bu where is it? Is it Nuremberg? If so which is the best road to get there from Calais? I want to try the top end out on my car on the Auto whats its also.

Help please

This is a good site for info http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/


....or speak to John Felstead who has been several times in a car I can't remember the name of.

Phil

the ring is, if i remmember rightly off the autobahn 8

these are several ways to approach you can do the bahn via stuttgart or you can travel down to saarlouis and accross

if you have an odd hour .5 to, spare a good route fo a blast

1.5 hrs approx of well open autobahn is to head for luxembourg

and then head for saarlouis but go via trier its basically autobahn all the way 180kph in an a class merc is really going some.....

average for us is 160kph all the way the only drawback is from saarlouis back to luxembourg the bahn is not finished so you have to do some poxy a roads

we did brussels to Lux couple of weeks ago 190kph in a seat leon!!!


and saarlouis to stuttgart in the a class good road comes right out by the f1 circuit

Mart

Thankd for the note guys.

What are the speed limits in Germany? Are there any roads where I can legally test the max of the scoob?

Nothing constructive to add other than to say - wow, have fun Gary! :cool::D

Oh, and I guess it's a free bttt for you ;):D

the autobahns are unrestricted.

however, there are limits around junctions and on stretches where the carriageway is past its best. Also if it rains there are limits.

also watch your big ends! there have been numerous failures following flat out in 5th sprints.

Directions to Nurburgring


Accumulative Mileage reset the odo Place

0 Calais, Out of Calais over the bridges on A16
3.2 Turn off for fuel. Down to roundabout 3rd exit see station on right. Back onto Al6 towards Dunkerque.
5.3 Left hand lane for Lille
5.6 Stay in left hand lane to E60/A16 Lille
25.7 Turn off right for A25 Lille
69.5 Follow all directions A25
71 Right hand lanes towards Valenciennes
72 Stay in right hand lane to Liege E42
80 Cross the Belgium border. Look for signs towards Mons
86 Right hand lane for Liege
110 Services
126.7 Right hand lane for Liege E42
190 middle lane E42 Prum
200 Final fuel stop
207 Right hand lane E42, keep right head for SPA
245 German border
256.5 Single carriageway
255 Dual carriageway
256 Turn off for Prum.
270 Gerolstein on 410
271 Across two roundabouts. Straight through a set of traffic lights. Over bridge. Through two more sets of lights.
274 First Nurburgring signpost
279 Right at roundabout in Dries followed by immediate left turn, sign to nurburgring behind you on the wall.
286 Kelberg. Left at lights signposted 8Km to ring on 257
289 Turn right at roundabout in Mullenbach.
200m turn left at T-junction
291 Turn right, go under GP bridges
292 Turn left to Nurburg
295 After Nurburg, at roundabout turn right into car park of the ring. Turn round and head back into Nurburg, find the nearest Bar!! LOL

Becarefull on the ring, dont drive flat out for your first few visits, theres a fatal acident a week there on average.

Watch out for bikes as they take funny lines and the ring taxis which are normally going faster than most other stuff

Re the comment " the autobahns are unrestricted"

yes that is true, however 130kph is often seen as an advisory limit

depending on where in germany you are.... you may get away with 200kph plus in some areas, and pulled in others

also read up on german motorway signs!!!!! otherwise you wont be the first to fall foul of the speed markers!!!

have fun

one drawback!!!! travveling on uk roads when you return is no fun

100 seems slow youl know what i mean!!!


Mart

Take your first couple of laps very steady :) I did, 10.25mins and still and managed an 'Off' just out of the fox hole, a very misleading/unsited set of corners :rolleyes: and yes be careful of Bikers and Transit Vans

At 15 miles.................
5 laps you'd have a fair Idea of most sets of corners around the course but wouldn't be sure in which order or where they were :(
20+ laps you would have a fairly confident off the coarse IMHO

Tony

Gary

As far as i can remember from my old days in germany, the autobahn is 130kph...

.....but in some places this is only the recommended max speed

ie. when you see a grey circle with 130 and a diagonal line through it, this means the road is unrestricted.

HOWEVER, like someone has already said if its raining its back to 130 kph AND if you crash and you are exceeding the recommended speed limit of 130 kph you are automatically to blame, regardless of fault. The moment you see another speed limit ie 80 kph - slow down and stick to it, or they'll have you on the spot.

Couple more tips:

1. most of the autobahns are only 2 lanes
2. Dont hog the outside lane
3. make sure you've got spare fuel, warning triangle, first aid kit etc
4. make sure you've got cash for fines (hopefully you wont need it though)


One more thing, once back in england 100 mph feels like 50 mph, so be careful

chris

I'll echo what Tony said - Take the first few laps *very* easily...In fact, drive it like a 'B' road you've never been on before...

Other than that, my 'ring tips are:

1. Find a car in the carpark sporting a 'Ringers' sticker...Blag a pax lap off the driver...

2. Do a slow 'sighting' lap in your own car...

3. Do more, gradually building speed, but keep your eye on the rear view mirror for faster traffic...

4. Accept that you'll be overtaken by all manner of diesel Golfs/Astras etc...These guys are locals, and slightly mad...

5. Also accept that you're not going to be particularly fast on your first visit - Don't crash by trying to chase the said local in diesel Golf! :)

6. Be especially careful at Adenauer Forst (everybody goes off there on their first lap ;)), and Schwedenkreuz (Fastest part of the track, and can be fatal if you get it wrong...

7. Most of all, have fun...It *is* the best track in the world!!!

Cheers,

Ross.

If you have time, Spa Francorchamps is pretty much on the way to the Nurburgring and worth a visit, half of the current GP track is on open public roads and you can drive round the whole of the old GP track, the only bit you can't do is Eau Rouge which is just for racing. Obviously speed limits still apply but you can get some of the atmosphere of the place.

Ross,
I wish I'd read your tip 6 before I went ;)

1)After 6 -7 laps your R/H front tread will start to disappear.
2)Big container of I/C Water top up
3)Inconstinance Pads for your Scooby on the Parcel shelf ;)
4)RAC gold recovery excludes Nurburgring area(check policy) ensure your no closer than 10 miles to it before you breakdown ;)
5)If you close the circuit it's about 2000 Euro's phrplus workers and materials costs plus 200 Euros a foot, 150Euro's for trailer of Circuit. IIRC

Tony

Tony