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papascooby 06 June 2003 12:40 AM

The WRX with PPP seemd like a bargain compared to the STi but I guess it isn't?

What are the main differences? brakes? suspension? etc.

cheers

Neil Smalley 06 June 2003 08:27 AM

STI has
6 speed gearbox
Front Limited Slip Differential
Different suspension
More in your face styling
Variable valve timing engine
Brembo brakes.
Ability to go to 300Bhp with full warranty

Boyakasha 06 June 2003 09:55 AM


+ Different Interior
+ Tracker

etc etc

Nigel H 06 June 2003 10:52 AM

+ Gold wheels

+ A water intercooler spray

ianmiller999 06 June 2003 10:53 AM

+STI badge

Neil Smalley 06 June 2003 11:02 AM

I was adding bits that actually do stuff :p . The gold wheels take away(IMHO) as does the pink STI badges.

The IC Spray is too fiddly to use, as by the time i've thought 'ooh I could use the IC spray, reached down and pressed it' I don't need it any more.


Old_Fart 06 June 2003 11:06 AM

I am growing to hate the VVT engine character on our STI8PPP..will be very lucky if it lasts a year :(
However the steering, gearing and brakes make it far better suited to me than the WRX.
Cman

Old_Fart 06 June 2003 11:07 AM

Oh and Neil...the I/C spray on UK scoobies is actually full time automatic according to Mike Wood...the buttons just there to play with. Mike says 'if it ain't using water it don't need it' or words to that effect.
Chuck

Neil Smalley 06 June 2003 11:24 AM

Chuck? really?
Is it only auto on the STI 8? cus i'm sure I read that it was manual(on the STI-7) and the Evo 7's was Auto.

Off to check my water level now, i'll mark it and see if it moves over the course of the summer(well summer ish).

The VVT engine is very different. I was'nt a big fan of it un PPP'd at all.

Old_Fart 06 June 2003 11:45 AM

Neil, http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/thread.asp?ThreadID=214150
Not sure about the 7 though, Mikes a nice chap and very responsive to emails so I'd suggest you drop him a line mate.
Chucky

Neil Smalley 06 June 2003 12:01 PM

Will do. Cheers. Although knowing Mike he's already read the thread and has prepared his usual cryptic answer ;)

Floyd 06 June 2003 01:14 PM

Whats wrong with your STI then Chuck? Which bit don't you like very much?

F

Old_Fart 06 June 2003 01:25 PM

I don't like the need to rev the engine like it was a vtech to get off the line. After MY00PPP and 'classic' STI's I'm keener on the old power delivery. To be honest I rarely drive it at all, use the wifes car or let her chauffer me.
Don't misunderstand me, it's great when it's rolling...but not as great as the old car IMHO.
Chuck

papascooby 06 June 2003 05:02 PM

Cheers chaps

how big are the brembo's? are they 4 or 6 pots?

i'm just about to replace my prelude VTEC so i'm well used to vvt - i've got 150ish horsies under 5,200 and then 200 up to 7,500

surely it just mans there's a wider power band? usual turbo power down low and then extra boost with the vvt atthe top of the rev range -much like the late model Supra's.

Is the suspension much better? How harsh is the ride and how much quicker round the twisties?


fmacario 06 June 2003 05:44 PM

I there

My MY02 WRX PPP is a great car. When I drive it I feel like the fastest and most powerfull car on the road.

The STI with PPP must be even greater.

MAC


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