Took my MR2 out for a wee spin today for the first time in months, i remember it was quick but it's just unreal. Wipes the floor with all us scooby drivers by a long shot. such a shame about the lag though......

waiting patiently for someone to say "twisties"

Agree, those bits were slighly more stressful than in the scoob lol

I was in one the other night, and they are quick :D

240 bhp mid engined RWD = :D :D :D

they're 2 different cars though. Both have good & bad points :cool:

They may be quick but i still dont think as quick as a good scoob

But quicker, for a fraction of the price

youve missed the best points about the mr2

no screamin kids in the back, no taxi runs and its too low for old people to climb in and out! just fast impractical fun.

both cars suffer form the same problem of to much understeer.

Not as quick as a 'ggod' scoob? Wat the hell does that mean? 1 rusted, oil leaking bald tyred MR2 vs a race prepped cut slicked, turbo'd to the eyeballs scoob?? Like the guys say... 2 different cars built for different circumstances... On a dry day, the tubby will probably keep up with you on the bends, depending on driver, and will be faster on the straights, but if it is wet/damp, then bye bye tubby!!

too much understeer in a turboed MR2? Seriously?
I have only been in one and that was oversteer city until a few mods were done. Eventually it was a very balanced car, still prone to controllable oversteer when provoked. Definitely a match for a scooby so long as the MR2 driver can drive it properly.

Steve

How do you get a mid engined, RWD car to understeer?

I certainly haven't been able to do it in mine

I got mine to understeer once when I first got it. Into a roundabout too fast, hard on the brakes in the wet and hey presto. Didn't do it for long, just eased off the brakes and it went round the corner no probs. All down to driver error rather than a charateristic of the car.

I got mine to understeer once, at 5mph on full lock! i can only guess you have cut slicks on the back and re-molds on the front. And over the twisties in th dry the scoob is ultimately faster given unreal grip and stability the MR2 doesn't have.... mind you I am comparing it to an RB5

I always say the stock Rev 3 MR2 (240BHP) and a WRX (260BHP) is a fair comparison.

I understand there 2 different cars, but looking at it from a sportscar point of view, overall i'd say the MR2 Turbo is a more refined, powerful and reliable car all day long.

Cheers

I was putting the Rev 2 (205 BHP) against a uk wrx, never driven a rev 3 but would love a shot, i'd think it would put a lot of cars to shame.

Including the RX-7 Mk3

The Rev 2 is 220BHP standard.

The MR2 is no doubt quicker then a UK spec Impreza, noticeabley quicker after 70 odd MPH.

HTH

NICE car if you work in a hair salon

[Edited by steve G MAN - 5/23/2003 3:58:53 PM]

Funny how many people relate RWD cars with hair salons

I guess that the hairdressers know how to tame a RWD car and the rest don't ;)

its almost as reliable as a scooby owner saying twisties!! We are all hairdressers, and you all cannot drive a car unless it does the driving for you..each to their own

bob, I am a 'hairdresser' myself :D

No comment!! I am a man and sweat profusely, and drink lager... in case anyone was wondering....

LOL, just cos some MR2's are T-bars they're immediately hairdressers cars. Doesn't matter about the mid engine design, the RWD or the 241BHP, they're always gonna be hairdressers cars.

*sigh*

oh well, I'm off home in 10 mins, might as well take the T-bars off and go Scooby baiting :D

Had one in front of me the other day and yes there fast-but he couldnt shake me off his tail-he was pushing so hard,he almost lost it!

been here lots before mr2 handles rubish and everyone knows it look at the write ups in mags its in black and white but each to there own. i cant understand why you would even argue there is no contest.

Dont know where u get a standard mr2turbo quicker than a standard P1 in a straight line? I raced one in my old my93 wrx and in straight line his speed was pretty crap, smoked every gear change too.

MR2 handles rubbish eh? Was it the BSM guide to sensible motoring review you read??? :)

Its a fantastic handling car - thats why I snapped the guys hand off when I test drove mine. The only time you are likely to loose it is if you go steaming into a tight corner and then hit the breaks because it ends up as a pendulum.
With MR2's you have to get your breaking done before the corner in a straight line, then you can power through the curve and even accelerate at a much earlier point out of it. And as with all mid engine rwd cars, in the wet you go round roundabouts gently.

The Turbo's are fantastic - you can get an OK one for £3.5K and are looking at great performance. Ever noticed how some of the fastest Supra's have had their engines removed and the 3S-GTE engine from an MR2 put in???

raced one recently and have to say i was well impressed, what a motor! (oh yeh and Toyota UK service them, unlike Subaru)

Who's cares if an MR2 Turbo is quicker than a Scooby? We go on this website coz we like our Scoobs. I had a late MR2 Turbo before my Scoob and it wasn't any quicker, and the handling sucked in comparison. I had it for a while so I know how they handle. It is a nice car, but no quicker. My mates S13 200SX used to leave the MR2 for dead. Scoobs are not slow.

200sx leave an MR2 Turbo for dead??? erm... hmmmm... ok... if you say so!

Well, I started the thread as i took mine for a spin and the scoob felt slow afterward (not P1). Rev 2 is 205bhp, same engine as celica GT4 (before round lights). 175bhp at the wheels as opposed to my scoobs 178 both on the same rollers.

They grip well but always go by the back in my experece and i have had my share of leaving roundabouts sideways