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DavidLewis 16 May 2003 11:39 AM

Hi all,

A few months back, I posted looking for help with my home network and sharing a printer on a XP with a ME box. Never did get to the bottom of it.

Heres the background

XP box, connected to cable router (LinksysBEFSHR41)
ME box, connected to cable router
Cable router connected to cable modem (Telewest/Blueyonder)

Internet access/email access works fine on both boxes.

XP IP address 192.168.1.101
ME IP address 192.168.1.100
Cable Router 192.168.1.1

I've done all the "enable printer for sharing" stuff. My main problem seems to be connectivity.

XP can ping ME
XP can ping Cable Router
XP cant access Cable Router config page (http://192.168.1.1) but remember, it can ping this address :confused:

ME cant ping XP
ME can ping cable router
ME can access cable router config page

:confused: I am WELL confused

Any help appreciated.

David.

michael_clarkson 16 May 2003 11:47 AM

Have you checked the firewall rules in the cable router ? Also take a look at the firewall rules in XP as it sounds like these could be causing problems also.

e.g
Go to your network connection and right-click to Properties. Then go to Advanced which brings up the native firewall. Click Settings and then ICMP. Click on "Allow incoming echo request." You will then be pingable.

[Edited by michael_clarkson - 5/16/2003 11:58:57 AM]

Fig 16 May 2003 11:51 AM

Check that both machines have same subnet mask set (255.255.255.0)

Have you created a username on the XP box which exactly matches that on the ME box?

DavidLewis 16 May 2003 11:51 AM

oh yes, forgot to mention, the XP box cant ping itself !!!!!

DavidLewis 16 May 2003 11:54 AM

Fig, both boxes have same subnet mask (255.255.255.0)
Both boxes have 4 accounts of the same name. The one I use also has the same password.

Fig 16 May 2003 12:06 PM

I guess you are using static IPs.

Has the router got DHCP enabled? If so, are your static IPs clashing with the DHCP range?

Have you tried using dynamic IPs (i.e. the PCs getting IP address automatically from router)?

Do all other settings match (e.g. gateway, DNS etc)





DavidLewis 16 May 2003 12:11 PM

Fig,
I think its using dynamic IP's. DHCP is enabled and the router can see both boxes in the DHCP active IP table and addresses match up

DavidLewis 16 May 2003 12:13 PM

The router is currently set up as a Gateway with dynamic routing disabled. Do I need to enable dynamic routing (if so, which protocol?)

Thanks guys.

DavidLewis 16 May 2003 12:24 PM

Michael,

Native firewall is disabled.

Fig 16 May 2003 12:27 PM

Not sure about dynamic routing - would leave it be for the time being.

Check TCP/IP properties on thePCs - see if set for static or automatic IPs.

micaAB 16 May 2003 12:30 PM

you may need to check that the defulat gateway is set. you are able to ping which shows a physical route, but your PC may not know how to route the ping to the destinations if it cannot find a gateway - this should be the IP address of your router.


H:\>ipconfig

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : whatever
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.99.236
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.99.254


hope this helps.

andy b.


[Edited by micaAB - 5/16/2003 12:34:34 PM]

DavidLewis 16 May 2003 12:38 PM

C:\>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : MSHOME
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.102
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1



DavidLewis 16 May 2003 12:43 PM

I have now manage to get the XP box to gain access to the router config page by opening explorer window, tools, internet options, connection, LAN settings, then unchecking automatically detect settings and proxy servers.

Getting there slowly.

DavidLewis 16 May 2003 12:48 PM

I'm going to shutdown everything and restart since I've changed a number of things. Hopefully I'll be back online soon

bigsinky 16 May 2003 12:52 PM

simple m8. dump ME and shove xp on the other box.

cheers

big sinky

micaAB 16 May 2003 12:53 PM

may be a routing table thing then - you're getting a ping into the router, but trying to ping to the other PC is the problem.

from the ME try:
route print
and
tracert 192.168.1.101


if you can access the router with a telnet session you can do a "route print" there too and then put it up on here (now to be honest i probably won't be able to interpret this information correctly - not smart enough, but there's gotta be some smart guy reading this who can tell you if the routing entries are correct). this is the basics of ip diagnosis, i'm not leading you up a garden path honest:

================================================== =========================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.1.10.254 10.1.10.236 1
10.1.10.0 255.255.255.0 10.1.10.236 10.1.10.236 1
10.1.10.236 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
10.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 10.1.10.236 10.1.10.236 1
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
224.0.0.0 224.0.0.0 10.1.10.236 10.1.10.236 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 10.1.10.236 10.1.10.236 1
Default Gateway: 10.1.10.254
================================================== =========================
Persistent Routes:
None

DavidLewis 16 May 2003 12:56 PM

Big Sinky,

Yep considering that one.

micaAB 16 May 2003 01:01 PM

damn,

well sorry i can't help, maybe you should consider restoring the router back to factory - there's gotta be something in the config which is causing this

good luck mate,

AB.

DavidLewis 16 May 2003 02:51 PM

No more ideas anyone ?

michael_clarkson 16 May 2003 03:43 PM

David,

Can you ping your XP box yet ? from the ME Host or from the Router (if it gives you an option to do this)

DavidLewis 16 May 2003 05:08 PM

No. ME cant ping it, XP cant ping itself and I've no idea how to try on ping it from the router (but the router has it in its DHCP client list)

DavidLewis 16 May 2003 05:16 PM

C:\>route print
================================================== =========================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 20 ed 41 b6 e3 ...... Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC -
Packet Scheduler Miniport
================================================== =========================
================================================== =========================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.100 20
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.100 20
192.168.1.100 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 20
192.168.1.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.100 20
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.100 20
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.100 1
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
================================================== =========================
Persistent Routes:
None


Well, I've no idea if this is right or wrong :)

HHxx 16 May 2003 05:16 PM

Can you surf the net from XP?

You don't run something like Zonealarm do you?

DavidLewis 16 May 2003 05:17 PM

Net access has never been a problem.

HHxx 16 May 2003 05:19 PM

Your route table looks fine.

HHxx 16 May 2003 05:23 PM

That route table is from ME? Thats what it looks like.

Fig 16 May 2003 05:23 PM

David,

Back to what I suggested earlier, check to ensure the PCs are not set for static IP's as these will possibly clash with the routers DHCP allocation.

I also suggest you run the XP Network setup Wizard, then create a network setup disk and run this on the ME machine.

HTH

michael_clarkson 16 May 2003 05:39 PM

David,

It still sounds like you have the WinXP FW switched on, and that would be one reason why you can't ping the box.

Go to your network connection and right-click to Properties. Then go to Advanced which brings up the native firewall. Click Settings and then ICMP. Click on "Allow incoming echo request." You will then be pingable.


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