Qwerty - This summer I might fly up with my Bro to see you guys. Need to brush up on cross-country nav :)

Whats the average flying time of the apache?. I heard that is has a critical system failure within 2-3hrs of flight :confused:

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Pete & South-star

Here's a pic of my wallet emptying device!
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpi...3119357250.JPG
(Dunno whats happening here? does turbosport still work)?

air experience flights given..! (for a share of fuel costs).

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[Edited by Flyboy-F33 - 5/1/2003 1:35:17 PM]

I have about three hours in Tiger Moths and 6 or so in a Yak 52

Scared of heights - which makes it interesting.

Hoping to blag a ride in a Hunter trainer later this year, usually cost around 1K a go but know the daughter of the chap that operates it. Will have to do the 'bang seat' training first which will add to the fun.

Hope it comes off!

[Edited by Paul Habgood - 5/1/2003 5:23:41 PM]

I think the Vulcan is Notts somewhere. Needs a shed load of cash spending to get its CAA approval (permit to fly?), they were hoping to get sponsorship but i do not think enough, damn shame, i remember keeping warn at a safe distance in the jet blast at an airshow some 14 years ago whilst it was pi$$ing down.

When i used to work in the airshow busness - I have a nice picture of me in a A10 Tankbuster, after spending a couple of days with the pilots, who where blody good blokes and after a particularly heavy night on the beer and a cocktail they called a 'screaming blue motherf**ker' anyway, the next day they invited me to fire it up which i did - What a rush!

This was the same airshow where i nearly got fried by the jet wash from a Red Arrow as he manouvered off of the pan to display - boy did i run for it!



[Edited by Paul Habgood - 5/1/2003 5:35:03 PM]

Are there any pilots on SN? or are you learning to fly.

I would love to learn to fly but dont think i can afford it :( Would be so cool being a pilot. I think the ladies would love me in a uniform :D:D
Iv for a thing for female cabin crew

Ray

I am an ex-pilot....not flown for a numeber of years now but Kai Tak was tricky

Normally commercial aircraft are limited to 30 degress of bank and a rate one turn....360 degrees in 1 minute

Kai Tak is one of the places where these limits were exceeded

Here's one.

'bout 6500 hours on various helicopters (Gazelle, Wessex, Sea King, Lynx, Apache, Hind, Ka50 Werewolf, Mi26, Mi8 and Mi17 etc...)and 700 or so fixed wing - ranging from Chipmunks to an F15 :)

SB

Me - Just a standard PPL w/night flying :( haven't had time to progress further. However I am planning on learning aerobatics next month in a trusty C152 :) My goal is to convert over to the pitts by the end of the summer :)

[Edited by RoadrunnerV2 - 4/30/2003 9:40:14 AM]

I did my Heli CPL in oz a couple of years ago - lovely place to learn and half the cost of extortionate UK prices :)

Does flying a Glider count? ;)

:cool: list of choppers SB!

Recently qualified NPPL (M) here :)

Anyone going to Popham on Saturday?

Pete - NPPL - So ya a Nervous-PPL then :D, me I am a JAR PPL :) When I started flying I missed out on the 'old mans' PPL within a month. As a result the JAR exams where stupid because all the books weren't on JAR :rolleyes: oh well, I got through them in the end....phew :)

something like 20 hours in a cessna. due to uni and car i had to stop - would love to continue it though.

I was very nervous when I started as I had a paralising fear of heights :eek:

Simon, that'll be a few years of active service then. What was your favourite?

Just under 8,000 hours on 26 different types. Funnily enough I felt the same as Pete Croney about heights. :)

Les

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Leslie

I now have no fear of heights at all and was able to march up the Eiffel Tower in October, something that I could not have even contemplated before learning to fly. In fact I suppose one of the reasons for learning to fly was to overcome this fear. Did it also cure your fear?

Another PPL (night and instr rated) who is on SN declined a flight in my microloght as he is still VERY scared of heights. I won't name him as I'm hoping for a summer night's flying in his spamcan ;)

Pete

Yes it did a lot to cure me although I used to feel uneasy sometimes when hovering in one of those Army helicopters where you could look at the ground between your feet.

I said in the other thread that I would be terrified to try your microlight. but would probably still have a go at it. I know how the other guy feels:) Enjoy the night flying, I used to instruct on London UAS for a tour and another instructor and I used to go night flying together in the Chipmunk at White Watham. We used to run a book on who could do the slowest slow roll on the downwind leg using Heathrow as a horizon! Loser bought the beer :D

Les

I used to Fly RAF Chipmunks and Bulldogs at Woodford :)

Completely un aided, but still had to have someone with me.

I can fly Gliders though :D

I fly radio control - does that count? ;)

60 Hours (20 Solo) Mostly in University Air Squadron and C152

Would love to have a go at PPL but it would be like starting from Scratch and too addcitive again...

Deano

Pete/Leslie - Congratulations on over coming your fear by flying :o Takes someone with strong will power to over come there fear like that :) Its like having a fear of snakes and jumping into a pit for an hour every weekend ;)

Pete - If you ever want to bring back your fear ;) just take a plane up to 6000ft and do a spiral dive. Its tame for the pro's but its sure fun for us simple ppl'ers :D

I used to be scared of heights as well except I overcame it by rock climbing (when I was younger and dumber!)

But

When I started flying I always felt car sick

Microlights (flexwings) look like fun, unless you want to go someware! :D

Edited to say i'm a frozen ATPL with 370 hours (about 10 in the last year :()

[Edited by bigJoe - 4/30/2003 1:12:32 PM]

Les I'm still not too clever in Heli's. If it all went quiet, I would want some wings around me ;) I read an article by a BA pilot who went up in his mate's ML... "like siting in a bathtub that's balancing on a lamp post" :D

Have any of you guys flown any old war birds? That's my aviating dream.

Is it me or virtually all pilots had a fear of heights at some point in their lifes ;)

I now know why the cockpit windows on commerical airliners are so small :D prevents the pilot from looking down just in case he/she gets dizzy :D

Deano - I will take you up this summer :) Don't blame me if you end up like qwerty though ;)

Has anyone been or is planning on going to the air racing in the US?

[Edited by RoadrunnerV2 - 4/30/2003 1:17:03 PM]

Pete - Used to have a sea fury, mustang, corsair to name a few at sywell. Used to see at least one of them every time I went flying. Unfortunately the guy who owned them Paul Morgan died when landing his sea fury :( I was actually there that day doing ground school :(

One day ;) I will get a racing kit mustang. Its virtually identical to the warbird expect it has short wing span for the twisties :)

Whats NPPL and PPL?

How much does it cost to learn to fly?

NPPL info here http://www.pfa.org.uk/the_pfa/nppl.asp

Average cost is approx £100ph for lessons. Your local flying school would be able to give you exact costs :)

Hi Pete

Yeah, a good few years and only finished my reserve time recently. Flying in the mob and then much of my consultancy - hence the unusual variety of NATO and WarPac stuff.

Favourite was the Ka50 by a country mile. We took one to the US for some A2A training with the guys at Fort Rucker and got a 9:1 kill ratio against their Apaches. And 3:1 against F16 :D

Hard to beat a chopper with a flight envelope of +9 to -3 G, especially when it's got Archer AAMs as well...

Bloody uncomfortable, though, and a single seater so pilot workload gets a little high sometimes.

F15 was nice. I was on exchange at NAS Mirimar when this thing came in. It was one of the ASAT development birds and the driver was basically giving joyrides to anyone who was up for it. Ony 10 minutes or so at a time - brakes off, fast roll, low G rotate, get as much speed as possible going out towards Vegas then zoom climb as high and as fast as possible. Then recover back to Mirimar. Sea level to 80,000 feet faster than an Apollo rocket :)

SB

PS This is a Ka50...

http://www.schoolboost.com/4Mark/ka50_3.jpg

Edited to add the picture

[Edited by Sbradley - 4/30/2003 1:45:11 PM]

NPPL is the latest version of the PPL.. National Private Pilot's License. The main difference is that the medical is much simpler. Your doctor basically signs you off as healthy enough to drive a HGV.

A Group A license (Cessna, Piper etc) will be a minimum of 45 hours at £90-£110 an hour plus about £250 in exam and General Flying Test fees.

A microlight license is a minimum 25 hours at £60-£70 an hour plus the same exams/test. You can carry NPPL mircrolight hours towards a NPPL Gp A license.

The cost is about £30 (ML) to £50 (GpA) per hour cheaper if you have your own aircraft to train in.