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Christ 25 March 2003 08:37 PM

Does anyone know of anyone using LPG succesfully, you see loads of base model cars and range-rovers etc, but what cars about the 200bhp mark? I realise turbo cars are not suitable but what about something like an Accord Type R? Anyone running anything similar?

Cheers

Chris

TopBanana 25 March 2003 09:03 PM

No reason why turbo cars aren't suitable

Jonto 25 March 2003 11:15 PM

Mike S_14 is running his 200sx on lpg, it was on the rollers the other week and did 29? bhp but that was on petrol, i know he switches to LPG for ECO mode ! :D

Stevie 26 March 2003 08:26 AM

Overlooking the fact that engine manufacturers spend millions developing an induction system, then back street matey boy comes along and plumbs in his gas pipe attached to diving equipment, it is a marvellous idea!!

I have 2 Rover 4.6's and a 4.2 outside, all I guess do about 15mpg. There is no way in the world LPG is going near my engines.

If you want cheap fuel costs the starting point, IMHO of course, should not be a 2 ton Range Rover or a sports car:)

Luke 26 March 2003 08:28 AM

I understood that most companies are not sure about a turbo engine conversion???? Guy i spoke to reccons he wont be doing them for a few more years until its all sorted out. he reccons there could be too many problems.

EvoBarry 26 March 2003 08:53 AM

My mate had an ITR running LPG, and it ran fine right up until the moment he wrapped it round a tree. :rolleyes:

Car died but gas equipment remained in tact, no horrendous explosions as some people seem to think with LPG.

I had an old Prelude with LPG and once it was setup it ran fine. Considering it for my current car in fact.

NotoriousREV 26 March 2003 09:29 AM

If set up correctly, it's fine to use, there are some turbo/LPG experts around, but mainly in the US.

LPG has a lower calorific value than petrol but higher octane rating, so you should be able to run the car in a higher state of tune without blowing the motor up.

On the other hand, I had a Lexus IS200 with LPG and it ran like a bag of poo, due to aforementioned back street matey-boy. Apparently it was running lean on LPG so they made a restrictor plate and stuffed into the intake. I thought it was a bit sluggish while on petrol :rolleyes:

Raks 26 March 2003 10:09 AM

How much is the average LPG install? :confused:

Dracoro 26 March 2003 10:51 AM

LPG generally takes a few years to get back the intial cost before you ACTUALLY benefit from the cheaper cost of fuel. So the question is...

Do you TRUST the government not to put up the duty/taxes in a few years time when loads of people are running LPG? Thus making it as costly as normal petrol. Come on, hand on heart, if everyone converts to LPG will Gordon Brown leave it cheap? I think NOT!

I would happily pay for a car ALREADY with LPG (wouldn't pay more than normal petrol version tho) as you benefit from the costs immediately but wouldn't pay the conversion costs in the first place.

workshy_fopp 26 March 2003 12:13 PM

I know a guy who does LPG conversions and runs his Ferrari 308 on LPG. He also does Jag V12 conversions for Range Rovers with LPG.

As said earlier - why would you want to spend £2k converting something that does reasonable MPG already, 2 grand buys a lot of fuel - needs to be in the sub 15mpg league to be worth it.

NotoriousREV 26 March 2003 01:42 PM

My Lexus conversion was around £1200.

On petrol

25,000 miles pa @ 28mpg = 892.86 gallons = 4059 litres

4059 litres @ 79.9p = £3243.14

On gas

25,000 miles pa @ 21mpg = 1190.48 gallons = 5,412 litres

5412 litres @ 37p = £2002.44

£2002.44 + £1200 = £3202.44

So I saved £40 or so in the first year and then £1240 a yea after that. Not bad, eh? Or it wouldn't have been if the system was in the least bit useable and din't keep cutting out and was as sluggish as hell.

LeeMac 26 March 2003 08:37 PM

have seen a Mitsu VR4 twin turbo on LPG

Christ 28 March 2003 06:10 PM

Cheers for everyone's input..

Evobarry - Wouldnt mind some more info on the ITR, do you
know who converted it?


Chris

Mantamac 28 March 2003 07:32 PM

I purchased a gas conversion for a 24v Vauxhall Carlton but never got aroubd to fitting it. The mixing valve was good for up to 280 bhp but at no more than 15 psi of boost if used on a turbo car apparently! I chopped the 24v in against another car so it's just sat there now....doh! And there's no way I'm fitting it on the Evo.;)

Mac.


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