To be honest Craig, i would take legal advise on what happened. Knowing the facts after speaking with Ian i would consider taking things further as what you were suplied was incredibly dangerous, you are very fortunate it failed when it did.

Lets make sure this thread doesnt go into conjecture now and just keeps to facts.

Is there no way you could use the loaned wheels for the trackday?

WTF.......:eek:

Terrible service. I have no advice except never use them again.

We're trying John - but the wheels aren't the right width/offset so theres almost no point.

Appreciate your comments and I'd appreciate it if this post can be kept sensible and factual - I don't need winding up any more than I am now [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Will be speaking to a solicitor monday.

Have you asked the westfield factory if they can loan you some wheels for the weekend? You have done an awful lot of work that will benefit them, maybe they can help you out?

They've only got 1 set suitable for ours - and they're on the demo :(

:eek: at least you didn't write the car off just after you finished building it. Where are you at with it now?

PAul

:eek:

Can we please keep all comments factual and non emotive. I would hate to have to remove this thread because people make potentially libellous comments.

Craig, I'll keep this here for a while, but if you are going to take legal advice its probably best to keep it off the BBS in case it prejudices your case.

Neil,

That's fair enough but I don't think we'll get anywhere as we already accepted their offer of replacement wheels - think we've been exceptionally fair to them over this but in my opinion I think I'm justified in stating my experience - and I think what I've written is non libellous - it's our exact experience of their service and quality - if the police hadn't attended I may have posted differently.

Craig

What you said was fine. I was posting a warning for muppets.

I heeded your warning thanks ;)

You called Neil????:D

is the demo booked out? If not go nick em. :D

I think Westfields own XTR2 is out of the country for a review at the moment. I can onl echo craigs words with our experience here. We searched and searched to find the wheels best suited to our car. The major deciding factors were strength, lightness and quality.

After the wheel failiure I think I can only say that they meet our requirements in lightness :(. I *really* *really* love the way the wheels look - just a shame they are danagerous.

I'm sure our wheels will be returned next week but that doesn't help this weekends situation.

Thank you all for your words of support.

regards

Ian.

Forgot to mention - the reason we think they came apart was that the alloy wasn't helicoiled - the bolts had been tapped straight in - will be interesting to see what the assessment comes back saying....

even with helicoiling, the wheels would have failed under the loads experienced with sticky tyres craig, never mind normal rough public road driving the car has to endure.

If you decide to take things further let me know, my mate is a senior stress engineer in an aircraft company (he also builds and races GT cars), i could ask him as a favour to look into that design.

Have you kept the wheels for evidence?

You pair of pussies ;) you should have run it on the 3 rims that were left ;)

Now the car weigh's twice as much with my wheels on, dunno you will buy these cheap wheels

:D

Hope all goes well tomorrow

What do you need for this weekend? I've got 15" rims on my Westfield sat doing nowt at the moment, they have bl**dy good rubber on them at the moment (Yoko 32Rs), I'm swopping them for Oz Superleggaras, so am selling the 15" rims.

regards,

greg

Greg

That would be very interesting - what size and ofset are they?

Cheers

Well,

all went well at Bruntingthorpe on Saturday...give or take a few issues.

Geometry is good.

Suspension needs some work as it was initially pushing wide into corners followed by snappy power oversteer (yeah - I span it a few times). I think we need to wait until our trick suspension arrives. Front end is maybe a little stiff - but we didn't have time to experiment with things - I guess the front roll bar could also be working too much.

Stack gave an indicated 142mph at 10,000rpm in 6th. Now the stack is calibrated for our ACB10s which have a larger rolling radius than steves yokos - so I guess that could be nearly 150 - who knows.

We need to improve our front splitter as we are not getting enough downforce on the front of the car - it feels quite light over 130. We also didn't run the rear venturi - mainly because it was a 'playing day' and didn't want to break it.

New lightweight steering wheel and boss (thanks for the welding dingy) works a treat. Inputs now need to be quite gentle. Steering obviously feels much heavier under load now - we'll have arms like popeye soon.

We also had some fueling problems in the way of 3ft flameouts at tickover. The fuel reg needed some adjustment. But the other issue was our FACET redtop fuel pump has burnt out. This will be replaced on tuesday.

A little concerned over the swirlpot - its quite close to the headers and even though lagged could be leading to fuel evapouration. need more experimentation.

We also thought we'd lost 2nd gear - but this was down to a leather gator cover restricting the throw - what a pair of monkeys.


All in all a great time - amazing how quick the car makes 130mph - and the noise is incredible - I could hear the change up to sixth even though I couldn't see the car :D :D :D

Ian.

Moderators please don't move this to dealers/wheels - it's quite important and as I say in the post, backed up by a police report.

Thanks

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