Just a quick warning to be very careful out there when being a little heavy on the right foot. WYP currently have a mobile speed camera van that targets main roads that have accident "blackspots" - I can state that these are all in built-up areas and NOT national speed limits (in this county, anyway).
We just had an internal memo passed around, telling patrol officers of a current change in policy. In layman's terms, WYP only used to prosecute people found to be 10mph over the speed limit. Now, they have been forced to follow ACPO guidelines and will now prosecute at 10%+2mph over!!! :eek: Anyway, here are the main bits of the memo: These cameras can pick you up at a range of 4,000 feet. Once the vehicle is in the can, so to speak your fate is sealed. (If you get caught you get done). There will be an advance warning sign put out by the operators, but if it blows over or goes missing that offers no mitigation - you will still be prosecuted. If you are going to a job and there is an IBIS log in existance and excess speed can be justified you may be O.K. But if you are just plain old speeding (whether at work or play) you will be prosecuted. That means points on your licence, a fine and possibly more expensive insurance etc etc. Who needs that? West Yorkshire Police used to prosecute speeders who were in excess of 10mph above the limit. West Yorkshire Police have now implemented ACPO guidlines - 10% + 2mph. That means if you are doing 46mph on York Road will are speeding. 35mph in a 30mph zone, you are speeding. [/b] [Edited by BuRR - 10/3/2002 8:50:34 AM] |
Thanks for the info Burr. :)
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Cheers Burr, just out of interest, what was the purpose of this memo - is it to warn officers not to get caught?????
Cheers, Nick. |
I have always assumed this to be true whereever I go, and drive accordingly (however that may be;)).
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Cheers Burr. So it seems that I'm still safe.
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Cheers BuRR. Good to know. Not that any of us speed....
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Gloucestershire is still and has been as long as I can remember 10%+2 (with discretion obviously)
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UUUUUGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH
sends a shiver down me spine me mateys Hawkeye |
very worrying indeed... especially if they dont just stick to built up areas.
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Just showed a lad at work this, and he thinks he got done by it the other day:eek: on york road. Did not see the van until it was too late!!
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cheers BuRR - but they have no cameras that my LE850 & Euro 550 between can't detect & jam;):D:D
oh alright, I'm showing off then:stick_tongue_out_and_wiggle_about: ps - I'll give you a ring tonight shunty |
Thanks for that BuRR...
Better use the legs locally then>>>! Raf. |
Cheers for the info.
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Thanks for the info...
couple of q's - where are the places where you can get a line of sight for 4000ft / 1200m (apart from maybe 1 or 2 on York Rd) and not be in a built up area? Unless magnification is used, oppo's eyes would have to be of the hawk variety...;) How accurate are Road Angel readings on true speed as it seems to read about 10% different to speedo i.e. near correct if speedo over-reads (not considering calibration differences)? I tend to trust this reading more than my speedo now I've had it a couple of weeks. Hence a gps reading and police should reasonably agree... and the 10%+2 allows for the non-gps using populace. Any thoughts? Apple |
Oh dear :(
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Cheers again BuRR.
Do these devices have to be calibrated daily and, if so, are we (the public) entitled to request a copy of the calibration certificate/notification? Thanks for all the info, HB. |
No - these things only have to be calibrated every few months or so...... the guys who came to our "test" day saw the one for the Laser we used.
Bear in mind, West Yorks have 2 laser systems, one long and one short range. The West Yorkshire speedtrap website is here. |
4000ft is a _very_ long way :eek:
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BuRR, cheers for this.
Do your 'colleagues' use radar or laser? Am I right in thinking laser is the trend for the future? Your real-life tests of laser jammers have been very helpful to many of us. Thanks for that. I would also like to add that I don't condone 'inappropriate' speed. At all. Ever. But I just don't trust the police to set up their traps at the right place at the right time. The mobile vans or Vascars I have seen have always been on wide open fast stretches of dry, bright daylight m'way where 70mph is just dawdling. I have also seen a police Volvo doing at least 130mph (believe me, I 'checked' their speed ;) and perfectly safe) but if I'd got caught doing that I'd be looking at a long ban. Hypocracy and disrepute do the police no favours. Why havn't I ever seen a mobile speed trap on a fast-looking section of road when it's dark, wet and traffic is heavy? I'd have real respect for the police addressing that, especially as I'd be going slower than anybody else. (If you've riden a bike for a few years, you soon learn healthy repect for conditions.) And they'd catch loads of twats in big fat 4x4s and Volvo drivers doing 90-plus when 50 is the safe maximum. Cheers, Richard. PS Not meaning to preach. Much ;) |
Just a quick reply here, and I'm happy to chat off the board via instant messenger or email,
but the reason why many of the inner-city traffic cops don't tend to be seen using the laser in rush hours and dark nights, is that (and again I'm speaking for Leeds here) you'll find that these are the peak accident times, and the limited resources are spent either attending accidents, or helping out struggling patrol teams in answering calls and incidents. The times they are seen (and again, I'm not talking about the speed-camera vans, as they're a separately funded department) are the times where its not as busy through the day, and the powers that be demand results, and KPI's (key-performance-indicators) ....and before everyone kicks off, please don't shoot the messenger. I've a wife and 3 kids to feed, AND I don't work "on the street" any more. ;) If anyone wants to chat to me, I'm available on my profile email address. |
That website is now on my favourites, cheers Burr!
Thanks for the frank explanation of what goes on too. Can't say I'm surprised. This is why I'd get soooooo frustrated working for the police! Keep smiling :) Nick. |
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