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j999jmp 09 June 2019 08:57 PM

STi 2014 on engine pitch mount bracket failure
 
Hi all,

So I've bought a new shape STI to replace my 08 hatch. Hatch has 122 k on the clock and going great. Picked up the 2014 with a partially stripped engine due to engine failure.

I have had the engine replaced but have noticed that the pitch mount bracket on the bulkhead is torn and split.

I did some research and found this is a common issue and that mid 2016 the part was upgraded on the production line. Also Subaru America issued a recall and a warranty extension.

I've spoke to Subaru UK who say there isn't a problem.

Anyone had a similar issue on their 2014 on STI or WRX? Just trying to get a handle on the issue and more data to speak to Subaru UK

If this has been covered before please let me know and I'll delete the thread. I did search but didn't come up with anything. If you have a link to the thread it would be appreciated.

Thanks

Gambit 09 June 2019 09:23 PM

Pic would be nice for reference purposes so that anyone buying should know where/what to look for in case they land upon this page from a search

sivo 09 June 2019 09:57 PM

This popped up when I was researching buying mine.
I have only seen bracket failures in the US for some reason, maybe because the are way ahead of us with tuning on the latest model.

Perrin do a strengthening bracket, looks a ball ache to fit though.

Siv

Don Clark 09 June 2019 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by sivo (Post 12054731)
This popped up when I was researching buying mine.
I have only seen bracket failures in the US for some reason, maybe because the are way ahead of us with tuning on the latest model.

Perrin do a strengthening bracket, looks a ball ache to fit though.

Siv

Designed for LHD and bolts to where the LHD clutch master cylinder is located so would probably need some modification for RHD use.

https://www.perrin.com/images/produc...n_gif3x600.gif

https://www.perrin.com/shop/drivetrain/pitch-stop-brace

https://www.perrin.com/images/products/PSP-DRV-112.pdf

sivo 10 June 2019 09:39 AM

Upgrading to a hard race pitch mount obviously increases the risk of failure.

Would a more substantial weld around the bracket - bulkhead before it fails be a permanent fix or does the oe bracket need beefing up?

Siv

John 37 10 June 2019 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by sivo (Post 12054745)
Would a more substantial weld around the bracket - bulkhead before it fails be a permanent fix or does the oe bracket need beefing up?

I wouldn't want to weld that back on. There is a high risk of fire inside the car up behind the dashboard where it's difficult to put out.

sivo 10 June 2019 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by John 37 (Post 12054746)
I wouldn't want to weld that back on. There is a high risk of fire inside the car up behind the dashboard where it's difficult to put out.

The Subaru warranty solution is to weld a stronger bracket on.

I may be wrong but that’s what I’ve seen on the US forums.

I wonder if a Perrin bracket is planned for rhd?

Siv

Don Clark 10 June 2019 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by sivo (Post 12054745)
Upgrading to a hard race pitch mount obviously increases the risk of failure.

Would a more substantial weld around the bracket - bulkhead before it fails be a permanent fix or does the oe bracket need beefing up?

Siv

The gif file above shows factured spot welds and a tear through the lower section
Picture below shows tearing of the backet on the other side and possible lower spot weld failure.

https://www.perrin.com/images/produc...roken3x800.jpg

Looks as if there are at least two potential crack propogation sites so no beefing up of the bulkhead welds would have prevented the failures - probably would have speeded things up.

j999jmp 10 June 2019 10:03 AM

I've obtained a replacement bracket and there are 11 spot welds. However when I looked at the Subaru America bulletin this part has been superseded. The new mount is 2mm thick instead of 1mm. Local dealer said there is no superseded part. So I supplied the part number and one is coming from Sweden apparently it's for the levorg STI. We will see. Still think Subaru UK are trying to duck this in a not sold many, head in the sand kind of way. Please check yours.
Ta

sivo 10 June 2019 10:13 AM

Interesting.

Definitely a market for a RHD support bracket then.

Maybe we should contact Perrin and see if they can produce a kit?

Siv

Don Clark 10 June 2019 12:02 PM

Part number for "BRACKET COMPLETE-PITCHING STOPPER" changed in May 2016 (mid way through MY16 European and ROW production) FROM 51234YC000P TO 51234VA0809P and is used on both saloon and wagon (Levorg)

https://parts.subaru.com/p/Subaru__/...34YC0009P.html

Gambit 10 June 2019 01:25 PM

good read here on it
http://www.subispeed.com/instruction...ching-stop.pdf


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