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mariodiniz21 24 March 2019 05:05 PM

Looking to buy a TSL Group N back box
 
As the title says, does anyone have a TSL Group N back box for sale? Thanks!

sunny1989 24 March 2019 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by mariodiniz21 (Post 12048647)
As the title says, does anyone have a TSL Group N back box for sale? Thanks!

You'l do well to find one these days, haven't seen one for sale in a long time.

juggers 25 March 2019 12:10 AM

I have one! selling the midsection and backbox.

mariodiniz21 25 March 2019 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by juggers (Post 12048682)
I have one! selling the midsection and backbox.

You have a pm

BrownPantsRacing 25 March 2019 10:18 AM

I had one of these on my FSTI. Found one for sale and modified it to fit, absolutely loved it!

mariodiniz21 25 March 2019 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing (Post 12048697)
I had one of these on my FSTI. Found one for sale and modified it to fit, absolutely loved it!

From what I read this exhaust has a nice balance, good sound without being ott and a subtle look, I'm not a fan of massive exhaust tips. Currently I have the Prodrive exhaust, I think the TSL would make a small but noticeable difference.

BrownPantsRacing 25 March 2019 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by mariodiniz21 (Post 12048699)
From what I read this exhaust has a nice balance, good sound without being ott and a subtle look, I'm not a fan of massive exhaust tips. Currently I have the Prodrive exhaust, I think the TSL would make a small but noticeable difference.

Yep, it's a shame the no longer make these as I really like them too. Just a perfect sound. Mine had a de-resonated centre pipe too and I got no cabin drone at all, just a lovely low subaru burble that was good every day and sounded great without being far too loud on full chat. Love them!

mariodiniz21 25 March 2019 10:32 AM

If I can find a used one in good condition and fair price I will take it, otherwise I'll look at new exhaust, maybe Milltek, or choose one from Scoobyworld.

BrownPantsRacing 25 March 2019 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by mariodiniz21 (Post 12048702)
If I can find a used one in good condition and fair price I will take it, otherwise I'll look at new exhaust, maybe Milltek, or choose one from Scoobyworld.

The Racebox is a reasonable alternative.

http://scoobyworld.co.uk/catalog/pro...roducts_id=686

mariodiniz21 25 March 2019 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing (Post 12048704)
The Racebox is a reasonable alternative.

http://scoobyworld.co.uk/catalog/pro...roducts_id=686

Have you tried it? I like the look as I prefer this smaller tip to the Prodrive one. But I'm afraid this RaceBox is too quiet, similar to Prodrive? I was also thinking about H&S, and maybe Ninja 2 even though I don't like the looks of it, but I want more sound.

This weekend I tried a Prodrive P1 GC8 backbox exhaust (small exhaust tip) on my 2005 STI and it sounded better than what I currently have, similar up until 3500 RPM but then it opened to an agressive "whoosh" sound up until the redline, very nice but still not exactly what I'm looking for.

BrownPantsRacing 25 March 2019 11:12 AM

No I haven't owned a racebox, but there are plenty of sound clips online on their site and youtube.

You'll find most systems on youtube so I would recommend trawling through that to find what you want.

LewisScoob 25 March 2019 11:26 AM

I have a TSL GpN back box available. I need to pick it up from a friends place but can easy do that this week.

cuprajake 25 March 2019 12:10 PM

one on ebay too

LewisScoob 26 March 2019 01:24 PM

Bump...

Mario’s search continues as mine isn’t a TSL. So sorry about that, Mario!

BrownPantsRacing 26 March 2019 01:25 PM

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Subaru-Im...frcectupt=true

mariodiniz21 26 March 2019 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing (Post 12048789)

Spoke with him already but the price is a bit too high and also he doesn't want to ship outside UK, I don't know why.

mariodiniz21 26 March 2019 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by juggers (Post 12048682)
I have one! selling the midsection and backbox.

Juggers please check pm

mariodiniz21 26 March 2019 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by LewisScoob (Post 12048788)
Bump...

Mario’s search continues as mine isn’t a TSL. So sorry about that, Mario!

No problem Lewis!

BrownPantsRacing 26 March 2019 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by mariodiniz21 (Post 12048793)
Spoke with him already but the price is a bit too high and also he doesn't want to ship outside UK, I don't know why.

What do you mean the price is high? That's bang on the right money for one of those systems second hand. I paid slightly more than that for mine second hand then cut it into bits to fit my FSTI. :)

RetroPug 26 March 2019 05:08 PM

I have a Racebox that hasn't done many miles in good condition I might be selling.

Shane 27 March 2019 08:37 AM

I've had both the Prodrive and TSL Grp N on my Classic, the TSL definitely sounds better without being offensive, I had a Cobra before and that was really loud. Think I paid about £100 delivered for the TSL.

They're a similar size both in silencer size

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...8408d9418e.jpg


And tip size
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...970f5b5cfd.jpg

And the TSL fitted
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...fe570c03a8.jpg

You can see why the Cobra was so much louder, the silencer is half the size
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...845d194d75.jpg


mariodiniz21 27 March 2019 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Shane (Post 12048874)
I've had both the Prodrive and TSL Grp N on my Classic, the TSL definitely sounds better without being offensive, I had a Cobra before and that was really loud. Think I paid about £100 delivered for the TSL.

They're a similar size both in silencer size

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...8408d9418e.jpg


And tip size
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...970f5b5cfd.jpg

And the TSL fitted
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...fe570c03a8.jpg

You can see why the Cobra was so much louder, the silencer is half the size
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...845d194d75.jpg


Thanks for the input, I don't understand how the TSL is noticeably louder than the Prodrive given that the silencer in both is the same size? Is it really much louder than the Prodrive? The Prodrive I currently have on my Newage has no sound at all.

That Cobra exhaust must be one of the loudest, I think they also make quieter models.

LewisScoob 27 March 2019 12:10 PM

The prodrive silencer has smaller bore with small holes in all the way to the tip, thats possibly why.

Shane 27 March 2019 01:09 PM

It will be down to the internal design of the silencer, I expect the Prodrive would have been a compromise between noise and gas flow whereas most after market will be more concerned with the flow of gases rather than keeping noise levels down.

mariodiniz21 28 March 2019 10:21 AM

I managed to find a TSL Group N exhaust in a online store, they didn't know what exhaust that was, was announced as "aftermarket exhaust" and it was fitted previously to a RB320.

Paid 84 pounds + shipping which was a good price

LewisScoob 28 March 2019 10:36 AM

Good deal, they sound great. Hoping my GeNome will sound similar...

mariodiniz21 28 March 2019 10:37 AM

I think the Genome sounds even better and louder?

That's the one I wanted but it is too expensive unfortunately, there are a couple of them on ebay.

LewisScoob 28 March 2019 11:01 AM

Yeah, they arent cheap, I've had mine a while. I just used the rebuild budget as an excuse to spend money on what i've wanted forever. I hope its a little louder, somewhere between the TSL and a Nur Spec.

I've a Gp.A replica for when i'm wanting to wake the dead :lol1:

mariodiniz21 28 March 2019 11:29 AM

Looking at the size of the Genome silencer, it should be very loud.

If I can find one at a decent price it will be the next exhaust upgrade if the TSL isn't enough.

BrownPantsRacing 28 March 2019 11:35 AM

I took my Genome off and sold it in preference for my TSL system. The Genone has a restrictor at the entrance to the rear box to narrow the gas entry and make it travel faster through the box. As a result it sounds very loud indeed and very angry on full throttle, but ultimately restricted the gas too much and my car made far more power with the TSL system fitted and sounded better IMO.


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