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mellinator2k 22 March 2019 06:15 PM

2pot conversion issues
 

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so my mechanic tried to fit my rear discs and 2pot calipers for my gc8.
Badically he said with new discs on wheel the studs were not long enough and he was not happy fitting then.
I have a 97 sti and fitted new age wrx discs

pics attached

thoughts?

1509joe 22 March 2019 06:50 PM

Discs are not sitting far enough onto the hub but it could be a number of things you need to explain exactly what you've done cause they look like newage hubs.

mellinator2k 22 March 2019 06:57 PM

Interesting!

i have done nothing to car mate. Maybe stuff done before my time but as far as I know it is a 97 sti.

Anyone got got any other thoughts? That defo not look right with the disc on no?

1509joe 22 March 2019 07:27 PM

97 Is a funny year import or UK car.

mellinator2k 22 March 2019 08:02 PM

It is an import mate version 3 sti

mellinator2k 22 March 2019 08:23 PM

Jut looking for someone to advise what discs I need or what the solution is to get the bloody 2 pot calipers on lol

Thanks!

mellinator2k 22 March 2019 08:26 PM

Got me thinking...……..in the pic I am sure he has not bent back the dust cover - could this be why the disc will not travel further back?

1509joe 22 March 2019 09:01 PM

Yes that would stop it but I fear there's possibly more to this than meets the eye. If its a v3 import why has it ABS rings for starters. Has it DCCD or do you know whether it has an r160 or a r180 diff. It will need the back plates modified or removed as well.

ossett2k2 22 March 2019 09:15 PM

Isn't the rear brake disc/hand brake size different from classic to newage?

1509joe 22 March 2019 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 12048415)
Isn't the rear brake disc/hand brake size different from classic to newage?

Can be but its a minefield with a v3 it could be a number of things.

mellinator2k 22 March 2019 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by 1509joe (Post 12048413)
Yes that would stop it but I fear there's possibly more to this than meets the eye. If its a v3 import why has it ABS rings for starters. Has it DCCD or do you know whether it has an r160 or a r180 diff. It will need the back plates modified or removed as well.

Christ what you mean? I think my car does have abs, sure there is an ABS module in the engine bay. No DCCD on this car.
Hopefully someone can shed some light on this

Godspeed Brakes 22 March 2019 09:25 PM

Hi
it will fit on , but you need to remove the guard around the hub , it's only spot welded on , so either drill out or grind off the welds, the discs will fit straight on all the way then.
You need 2001 onwards WRX 290mm discs with the 170mm handbrake.
Hope this helps
Cheers Ian

1509joe 22 March 2019 09:31 PM

Pic of chassis plate or model number would be a good place to start. Did it have single pot rears if so Alyn at AS performance will be able to help you out but the v3 with DCCD is a nightmare. Model number should be something like this GC8D4ED

mellinator2k 22 March 2019 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Godspeed Brakes (Post 12048418)
Hi
it will fit on , but you need to remove the guard around the hub , it's only spot welded on , so either drill out or grind off the welds, the discs will fit straight on all the way then.
You need 2001 onwards WRX 290mm discs with the 170mm handbrake.
Hope this helps
Cheers Ian

Ian, thank you sir for all your info. I spoke to you many times on the phone about the upgrade and you provided great knowledge. I promise when I buy my new front disks in next short while it will be from you lol

I bought the rear disks from euro car parts, Brembo disks from an early newage car - here are disk specs - should this fit?
Diameter [mm]290Height68.7Hole Arrangement/Number05/07Thickness20TypeVented DiscEngine Code EJ20*; EJ205Fitting Position RearFitted Quantity 2Other Information 290mm Brake Disc, Dia 290mm, Diameter 290mm, Model Code GDA/GGA, Thickness 20mm, Vented Disc






https://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/S...9762d10&000027

mellinator2k 22 March 2019 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by 1509joe (Post 12048420)
Pic of chassis plate or model number would be a good place to start. Did it have single pot rears if so Alyn at AS performance will be able to help you out but the v3 with DCCD is a nightmare. Model number should be something like this GC8D4ED

No DCCD. It is not a two door.

gc8d4ed in model - 1997 sti v3

Yes it currently has 1 pot at rears and 4 pots at front

1509joe 22 March 2019 09:55 PM

That add/web page you provided is misleading they are not brembo discs they are 290mm. Brembos are 316mm iirc on the rear. if you cut/ grind/ hammer and chisel the spot welds off then they should fit. The 4 in your model number is the number of doors but the r180 and DCCD came in the ra's as well which is also a 4 door.

mellinator2k 22 March 2019 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by 1509joe (Post 12048423)
That add/web page you provided is misleading they are not brembo discs they are 290mm. Brembos are 316mm iirc on the rear. if you cut/ grind/ hammer and chisel the spot welds off then they should fit. The 4 in your model number is the number of doors but the r180 and DCCD came in the ra's as well which is also a 4 door.

I ordered the Brembo version of those disks. There were many options. Ok cool I will try and bend back the brake dust shields and try again! Thank you all

MattyB1983 23 March 2019 12:40 AM

If your mechanic didn't realise the disc was sitting against the guard then I think you need a new mechanic.

You don't bend back anything, just grab a grinder and grind off the few spot welds and the whole thing will come off.

mellinator2k 23 March 2019 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by MattyB1983 (Post 12048440)
If your mechanic didn't realise the disc was sitting against the guard then I think you need a new mechanic.

You don't bend back anything, just grab a grinder and grind off the few spot welds and the whole thing will come off.

ha ha


I will have a go myself today today and see if I can get the disk in with the backing plate off

V-Lim Jim 23 March 2019 09:44 AM

It does sound like the dust shield hasn't been removed and is in the way. It HAS to be removed to be able to slide the new discs on fully. I did this to my V3 STi a few weeks ago and the disc slid right on after drilling the dust shield off :thumb:

V-Lim Jim 23 March 2019 09:47 AM

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Here are the seven spot welds partially drilled out on my old dust shield prior to removing it, hope that helps.

1509joe 23 March 2019 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by MattyB1983 (Post 12048440)
If your mechanic didn't realise the disc was sitting against the guard then I think you need a new mechanic.

You don't bend back anything, just grab a grinder and grind off the few spot welds and the whole thing will come off.

Did'nt like to say that :wonder:

mellinator2k 23 March 2019 04:30 PM

All sorted gents!
Yes the dust shields were NOT bent back. Once I did that job was fairly simply. I had to spin the handbrake shoe thingy as one of the discs did not want to go on.

I did try to bleed the brakes (only back two) but was not seeing a lot of fluid come out.

In any case took car out and it stops, will get my mechanic to bleed full system when he fits the braided hose lines.

Thanks all
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JDM_Stig 24 March 2019 06:01 PM

In that picture it shows you already have braided hoses fitted?
There is a sequence to follow for bleeding correctly.

jaygsi 24 March 2019 07:02 PM

This is my next mod well over due, bought some rear calipers off Matty but they arrived split in half, so i ended up not fitting them straight away as read that if the calipers are spilt will need new seals as they never seal the same again after. Just bought another set of a low mile Newage model, need to respray them blue.

TECHNOPUG 25 March 2019 10:35 AM

You should fit new stainless steel pistons and seals/dust boots whilst you have them apart and off the car. Not difficult to do.

The Rig 25 March 2019 02:07 PM

Glad its sorted but why didnt you remove the backing plate instead of bend it over ?

mellinator2k 25 March 2019 06:53 PM

I just wanted to make sure the disks fitted. Next time wheels are off I will properly remove the dust shields. And I didn’t have a decent grinder/ drill to hand.

I bought the calipers fully refurbished and pressure tested from “big red” on eBay. Came with a couple of years warranty.

£230 and sold my previous ones (which needed work) for £100.

Yes my kechanic fitted the first braided line line then ran out of time......

i need to ffit the other three to the car at first opportunity.

Never ending lads!!!!

jaygsi 26 March 2019 05:11 PM

Car sits in a heated garage and only comes out in winter so can't see them rusting up any time soon. Discs are still spotless on the front.


Originally Posted by TECHNOPUG (Post 12048703)
You should fit new stainless steel pistons and seals/dust boots whilst you have them apart and off the car. Not difficult to do.



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