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rsjohn 23 October 2018 03:08 PM

What 480-500bhp turbo?
 
Iv seen a few turbos that fit the bill but would like some feed back by people that actually have or had a turbo that makes the required power please?

Engine is 2.5 fully forged.

thanks

the shreksta 23 October 2018 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by rsjohn (Post 12031725)
Iv seen a few turbos that fit the bill but would like some feed back by people that actually have or had a turbo that makes the required power please?

Engine is 2.5 fully forged.

thanks

also interested in this please.....

Any graphs on...

Md321v
Gt3076r
Mdx555 500bhp
precision turbo
Sc46
Md321t

Dave Y 23 October 2018 03:26 PM

S206b
480 bhp was its maximum according to the mapper.

the shreksta 23 October 2018 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by Dave Y (Post 12031732)
S206b
480 bhp was its maximum according to the mapper.

what boost was that on Dave?

scooby2.5maz 23 October 2018 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by rsjohn (Post 12031725)
Iv seen a few turbos that fit the bill but would like some feed back by people that actually have or had a turbo that makes the required power please?

Engine is 2.5 fully forged.

thanks

Ive ran a s206 turbo technics on my fully forged 2.5 on stock 2.0 WRX heads . Made 475/470 at 1.75 bar .

john_666 23 October 2018 04:49 PM

I have mdx321v+ time attack turbo with 76mm housing on a 2.5 cdb will be 540bhp with supporting mods

the shreksta 23 October 2018 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by john_666 (Post 12031746)
I have mdx321v+ time attack turbo with 76mm housing on a 2.5 cdb will be 540bhp with supporting mods

any graphs?

rsjohn 23 October 2018 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by john_666 (Post 12031746)
I have mdx321v+ time attack turbo with 76mm housing on a 2.5 cdb will be 540bhp with supporting mods

Is that with meth also?

john_666 23 October 2018 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by rsjohn (Post 12031750)
Is that with meth also?

V power.. This is the + time attack turbo not just a normal Mdx321v.. They don't advertise them on the website you need to contact lateral as they are special order..



the shreksta 23 October 2018 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by john_666 (Post 12031752)
V power.. This is the + time attack turbo not just a normal Mdx321v.. They don't advertise them on the website you need to contact lateral as they are special order..

how much are they? what exactly is different?

rsjohn 23 October 2018 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by john_666 (Post 12031752)
V power.. This is the + time attack turbo not just a normal Mdx321v.. They don't advertise them on the website you need to contact lateral as they are special order..


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12031754)
how much are they? what exactly is different?

What he said ^^^^^^^?

bustaMOVEs 23 October 2018 07:02 PM

I'm guessing same as a mdx321v but with a bigger wheel to flow more power.

but for op's 480-500 goal I'd be looking at a precision turbo as most seem to make sub 500.

ajones3217 23 October 2018 07:17 PM

I believe the mdx321v has been revised since last year. Its meant to be even better than the previous version. Probably best speak to Lateral about it.

domino46 23 October 2018 08:11 PM

forced performance red none billet , made 531 @ 1.75bar without any issues on v-power only , very good turbo for the money

domino46 23 October 2018 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by john_666 (Post 12031746)
I have mdx321v+ time attack turbo with 76mm housing on a 2.5 cdb will be 540bhp with supporting mods


when you say "will be 540" ,, does that mean you haven't actually made them numbers ??

the shreksta 23 October 2018 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by domino46 (Post 12031773)
forced performance red none billet , made 531 @ 1.75bar without any issues on v-power only , very good turbo for the money

do they not not make a billet version?

rsjohn 23 October 2018 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by domino46 (Post 12031773)
forced performance red none billet , made 531 @ 1.75bar without any issues on v-power only , very good turbo for the money

Got a power graph of this please?

domino46 23 October 2018 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12031779)
do they not not make a billet version?


yes mate but I brought this one nice and cheap ,, was going to go for the billet after but it made more power than I was expecting so iv stuck with it ,, I asked about upgrading mine but they said id need a whole new turbo so haven't bothered as 530 is plenty for now lol

domino46 24 October 2018 12:01 AM


Originally Posted by rsjohn (Post 12031793)


Got a power graph of this please?

can't seem to be able to find it ,,, turbo comes into full boost around 4k and pulls hard right to the red line

the shreksta 24 October 2018 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by domino46 (Post 12031796)
can't seem to be able to find it ,,, turbo comes into full boost around 4k and pulls hard right to the red line

thanks for the info, your still on the std ecu-correct?

domino46 24 October 2018 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12031807)
thanks for the info, your still on the std ecu-correct?


yes mate just has racerom software

the shreksta 24 October 2018 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by domino46 (Post 12031811)
yes mate just has racerom software

What boost you running?

domino46 24 October 2018 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12031813)
What boost you running?

1.75bar ,,,, iv maxed my 800cc injectors so I'm going to upgrade the fuel system over this winter and I might add a bit of meth and see where that gets me lol

the shreksta 24 October 2018 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by domino46 (Post 12031815)
1.75bar ,,,, iv maxed my 800cc injectors so I'm going to upgrade the fuel system over this winter and I might add a bit of meth and see where that gets me lol

are you not concerned that the standard ecu might not save your engine if there is an issue? with my up-coming build i will be going for an aftermarket ecu purely for the safety benefits of it.

domino46 24 October 2018 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12031821)
are you not concerned that the standard ecu might not save your engine if there is an issue? with my up-coming build i will be going for an aftermarket ecu purely for the safety benefits of it.


like what ?? ,, aftermarket ecu would save your engine in what way ?? ,,,, as we all know that once these motors start to fail there isn't much stopping them so if my gauges are telling me its all good then I'm happy lol. , if I get any other odd readings they scream like fook and flash away at me but lets be honest by this time if its anything major its to late anyway lol ,, if its not major the gauges will tell me

my last build got saved due to normal gauges so I'm happy with them as I tend to watch what my car is doing rather than relying on things to tell me first lol

the shreksta 24 October 2018 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by domino46 (Post 12031824)
like what ?? ,, aftermarket ecu would save your engine in what way ?? ,,,, as we all know that once these motors start to fail there isn't much stopping them so if my gauges are telling me its all good then I'm happy lol. , if I get any other odd readings they scream like fook and flash away at me but lets be honest by this time if its anything major its to late anyway lol ,, if its not major the gauges will tell me

my last build got saved due to normal gauges so I'm happy with them as I tend to watch what my car is doing rather than relying on things to tell me first lol

i was just under the impression that an after-market ecu had alot of benefits over the std ecu. i also have a gauge pack (defi).

here is a statement from a tuner i have been in touch with regarding aftermarket ecu

"yes streaming info from added sensors is one of the best things about a good aftermarket ECU, we set it to do a soft cut in the event of a drop in oil pressure or a rise in oil temps, if they don’t recover it brings in a full cut,
The soft cut is a warning some things amiss and its there not only to save the engine but to warn the driver a full cut is coming so pull over and slow right down, if the pressure recovers or the temps drop down it will remove both soft and potential of full cut but its a warning that something is amiss, better a warning than a big bang.
We can also stream in water temp cuts fuel temp cuts fuel pressure cuts and a compensation table that if the fuel pressure starts top drop the injectors open up for longer to compensate up to a point then in comes a soft cut"


rsjohn 24 October 2018 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by domino46 (Post 12031796)
can't seem to be able to find it ,,, turbo comes into full boost around 4k and pulls hard right to the red line

Is this the latest one?


Originally Posted by domino46 (Post 11812717)


domino46 24 October 2018 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by rsjohn (Post 12031827)
Is this the latest one?


dont think thats my most recent one but won't be far off I wouldn't of thought

domino46 24 October 2018 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12031825)
i was just under the impression that an after-market ecu had alot of benefits over the std ecu. i also have a gauge pack (defi).

here is a statement from a tuner i have been in touch with regarding aftermarket ecu

"yes streaming info from added sensors is one of the best things about a good aftermarket ECU, we set it to do a soft cut in the event of a drop in oil pressure or a rise in oil temps, if they don’t recover it brings in a full cut,
The soft cut is a warning some things amiss and its there not only to save the engine but to warn the driver a full cut is coming so pull over and slow right down, if the pressure recovers or the temps drop down it will remove both soft and potential of full cut but its a warning that something is amiss, better a warning than a big bang.
We can also stream in water temp cuts fuel temp cuts fuel pressure cuts and a compensation table that if the fuel pressure starts top drop the injectors open up for longer to compensate up to a point then in comes a soft cut"


im not saying its not a better ecu as we all know it is ,,,, from what I can read the ecu will cut things if there is a problem ,, I can see this being a real benefit if your tracking the car all the time as your focused on the track and gauges don't really get much time so you might not notice a problem ,,,, but in my road car it seems a rather big cost for the ecu to cut things off when my gauges will tell me the same thing and I can just pull over myself ,, if you don't notice your gauges flashing and bleeping at you then why have them at all lol

one thing iv learnt over these many years is don't take advice from anyone trying to sell you something lol

the shreksta 24 October 2018 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by domino46 (Post 12031831)
im not saying its not a better ecu as we all know it is ,,,, from what I can read the ecu will cut things if there is a problem ,, I can see this being a real benefit if your tracking the car all the time as your focused on the track and gauges don't really get much time so you might not notice a problem ,,,, but in my road car it seems a rather big cost for the ecu to cut things off when my gauges will tell me the same thing and I can just pull over myself ,, if you don't notice your gauges flashing and bleeping at you then why have them at all lol

one thing iv learnt over these many years is don't take advice from anyone trying to sell you something lol

im always looking at my gauges lol...................like im waiting for something to happen :)

i wont be tracking the car its just a fast road car.

isnt there a maximum boost limit on the std ecu?


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