WRX vs STI for daily running/costs/maintenance/longevity
Hi Scoobsters, just after a bit of advice.
Firstly, my budget is quiet small, it will be anywhere between £6.5-7.5k maybe a touch higher. I will be looking to buy a car within the next couple of weeks.What I need advice on is, if im gonna be using the car as my main daily (home to work and back = 100 miles a week), would you buy a clean very low mileage for example 35-50k mileage WRX or a high mileage (100k~) STI??Which would be better for a daily, whats more reliable and interms of running costs do they differ much? ps I wont be doing any trackdays or racing etc thanks |
Originally Posted by Discover
(Post 12029472)
Hi Scoobsters, just after a bit of advice.
Firstly, my budget is quiet small, it will be anywhere between £6.5-7.5k maybe a touch higher. I will be looking to buy a car within the next couple of weeks.What I need advice on is, if im gonna be using the car as my main daily (home to work and back = 100 miles a week), would you buy a clean very low mileage for example 35-50k mileage WRX or a high mileage (100k~) STI??Which would be better for a daily, whats more reliable and interms of running costs do they differ much? ps I wont be doing any trackdays or racing etc thanks It's a 6 speed in the sti so better for mpg on a long run but be warned.......the mpg is pretty bad in a Subaru which ever model you get. For £7k-£8k you should be looking at the 2003-2005 blobeye model sti or a nice prodrive bugeye sti. |
As above, running costs will be the same between the 2 models. I have used my Subarus for the last 12 years as daily drivers and loved every moment of them. My first was a standard WRX when I purchased it from Subaru which I loved massively, but ended up spending so much money on it that it essentially ended up as an STI. Nothing wrong with the WRX in my opinion, but if you are looking to go up in power and modify then do yourself a favour and start with an STI. Much better all round car.
For your budget I'd be looking at a 2.0L blobeye STI 2003-2005, if yo can get an 05-55 reg widetrack then even better. Or a forged hawkeye STI. |
Wrx for daily sti for pleasure imo BUT then again my little bro wants an sti for a daily now instead of modifying his wrx ppp which he has owned as a daily for over 2years he won’t even have anything sti on it as he says it’ll devalue his car lol! he wouldn’t even let me put a sti speedo on that I bought as a gift for him :cry: |
thanks some great responses there.
so I forgot to ask in my op, that is insurance a lot higher on the sti compared to wrx? I'd love to have a hawkeye sti but they're above my budget :(, don't like the look of the bugeye (personal opinion) so if looking for sti do I just need to make sure its got full service history (to indicate car has been well maintained in its past) ? |
It's a car, no harder or easier to drive than any other car. The only difference between any other car is the petrol costs and the fact you are driving a goldfish bowl and dickhead magnet.
I use my 400PS MY00 every day and have done for the last 18 years. |
Originally Posted by Discover
(Post 12029502)
thanks some great responses there.
so I forgot to ask in my op, that is insurance a lot higher on the sti compared to wrx? I'd love to have a hawkeye sti but they're above my budget :(, don't like the look of the bugeye (personal opinion) so if looking for sti do I just need to make sure its got full service history (to indicate car has been well maintained in its past) ? There are still some nice cars out there. Don't let high miles put you off if it's been well maintained by an enthusiast. Would think the insurance difference between WRX and STI is nothing, certainly no difference for me. |
would be perfect to buy a blobeye STI and do a hawkeye conversion lol if it was as easy as that :p
do the JDM cars still make that signature Subaru rumble sound? I read because they have equal length headers they don't make that rumble and are much quieter in stock trim? ahhhh can't decide what to do lol |
Should be circa 5 mpg between the two. STIs are pretty much impossible to get over 25, but you can touch close to 30 in the WRX. Obviously if you’ve a heavy right foot, it’ll be less. Insurance might be a bit different too, depending on age. |
Originally Posted by Discover
(Post 12029510)
would be perfect to buy a blobeye STI and do a hawkeye conversion lol if it was as easy as that :p
do the JDM cars still make that signature Subaru rumble sound? I read because they have equal length headers they don't make that rumble and are much quieter in stock trim? ahhhh can't decide what to do lol |
i hope your prepared for the fuel bills doing that mileage a week. my old boss who used to own my sti was doing around that sort of mileage and reckoned he put in 90 quid for the one and only time he brought it to work for that week. he sold it not long after that to me lol.
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Originally Posted by Discover
(Post 12029510)
would be perfect to buy a blobeye STI and do a hawkeye conversion lol if it was as easy as that :p
do the JDM cars still make that signature Subaru rumble sound? I read because they have equal length headers they don't make that rumble and are much quieter in stock trim? ahhhh can't decide what to do lol my advice is go for a nice looked after bugeye sti prodrive and do the hawk conversion OR buy a blobeye sti (widetrack if possible) and leave the hawk conversion as in my opinion the blobeye is the best looking model |
I'm going to go against the grain, and say modified wrx for a daily. Same power as an unmodified sti, and way better mpg, I regularly got over 350 miles out of a wrx tank full, lucky to get 250 miles in my current sti.
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Originally Posted by yabbadoo4
(Post 12029524)
i hope your prepared for the fuel bills doing that mileage a week. my old boss who used to own my sti was doing around that sort of mileage and reckoned he put in 90 quid for the one and only time he brought it to work for that week. he sold it not long after that to me lol.
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I'm pretty sure in my.old wrx, I could do my weekly mileage in 30 quid fuel for the week (driving at cruising speeds and not thrashing it), I guess I could live with that.
someone mentioned bugeye sti with a hawk conversion that sounds great. Where could I get this done? Will I need the entire front end - bonnet, wings, headlights and bumper? also, what is the difference between WRX, WRX ppp and widetrack? |
Originally Posted by KwikFit
(Post 12029541)
mine wrx ppp did 280 rarely 320, jdm hawk sti now 240-260 but... 50 litres in hawk instead of 60 ( no idea way i can put only 50l to jdm hawk-it is not spec c)
Is the blob wrx tank 60l? That explains a bit! |
Also bear in mind that these are high performance cars and getting on a bit, so you will need to budget for maintenance, or be prepared to do some spannering yourself. Things like bushes may be getting towards the end of their life and be wary of rust.
These cars are very tough, and there is lots of support to keep them going, but they can need a bit of tinkering to keep them driving as they should. |
Originally Posted by Discover
(Post 12029472)
Hi Scoobsters, just after a bit of advice.
Firstly, my budget is quiet small, it will be anywhere between £6.5-7.5k maybe a touch higher. I will be looking to buy a car within the next couple of weeks.What I need advice on is, if im gonna be using the car as my main daily (home to work and back = 100 miles a week), would you buy a clean very low mileage for example 35-50k mileage WRX or a high mileage (100k~) STI??Which would be better for a daily, whats more reliable and interms of running costs do they differ much? ps I wont be doing any trackdays or racing etc thanks |
Originally Posted by Bryan Gallacher
(Post 12029616)
I'm selling my sti if you want more info mate
cheers |
Originally Posted by Discover
(Post 12029875)
Hi maybe interested depending on price, can you pm me some info or link to the ad?
cheers send me a pm if you want anymore info mate |
Great, will have a detailed look later as I'm at work right now.
Can anyone please explain differences what is PPP and widetrack?? |
PPP prodrive performance pack , exhaust remap sometimes a fuel pump plus sometimes i believe a sports cat , it was a warranty approved tuning job , it was a great mod on classics and many other cars , widetrack is as it says a slightly wider track 10mm i believe , it was around 2005/06 plus was on a lot of jdm cars , wheels pcd changed from 100 to 114 suspension changes and other bits done like lights seats interior , downside was suspension and wheels no longer interchangeable from older models when widetrack came in |
Originally Posted by Discover
(Post 12029882)
Great, will have a detailed look later as I'm at work right now.
Can anyone please explain differences what is PPP and widetrack?? Prodrive Performance Pack = a generic mapped ECU from Prodrive, Y Pipe, exhaust and sport cat depending on model. Wide Track - wider track on the car and the PCD goes to 5 x 114 but only on the STI (WRX stayed at 5 x 100) and DCCD. To add fuel to the fire my Newage JDM WRX was more than a match for a standard STi with lower running costs. |
Originally Posted by Bryan Gallacher
(Post 12029878)
https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-444/1056424-selling-my-wrx-sti-type-uk.html
send me a pm if you want anymore info mate |
Originally Posted by jimmy boo
(Post 12030243)
I do hope you're getting another scooby or will Ayrshire have one less?
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Originally Posted by FaworEU
(Post 12030245)
hawk 2.5l longevity:poke:
Don't worry, you'll be banned again by the morning. |
Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
(Post 12030253)
Really wish you'd have attended school at one point in your life fawor and learned to read.
Don't worry, you'll be banned again by the morning. hopefully my wife's car will be sold within the next couple days and I will be in a position to buy a scooby once again yay :) |
Originally Posted by Discover
(Post 12030347)
sorry I didn't quiet get the joke ?
hopefully my wife's car will be sold within the next couple days and I will be in a position to buy a scooby once again yay :) My comment was just a reply to him, he's a vacuous low life who can hardly put a sentence together normally, hence the comment about school I made. Not at all related to your post or thread. :thumb: |
Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
(Post 12030355)
The guy I replied to is a well known Troll. Just last night he created a username (even though he's currently banned) and went online to post mostly aggressive comments on all the threads I'd posted on. He then got banned again last night, created yet another username a few minutes later and put loads more trolling comments onto everyone's posts. Moderators have now removed his posts again thankfully.
My comment was just a reply to him, he's a vacuous low life who can hardly put a sentence together normally, hence the comment about school I made. Not at all related to your post or thread. :thumb: |
Originally Posted by the shreksta
(Post 12030356)
if humanity were a pair of under-pants...............he would be the brown stain running through them
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