Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
(Post 12021747)
Lol so we mustn't make assumptions about women in burkas but blokes in crash helmets are fair game. I think that's called reverse discrimination.
As you like to say 'it's a fact' If there had been a spate of Burkas related petrol forecourt crime, then I'd be with you. |
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 12021748)
It's not an assumption.
As you like to say 'it's a fact' Clearly Denmark and the other countries who have banned it in public have a different view to yourself and see plenty of reason as to why it shouldn't be allowed. |
Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
(Post 12021750)
I have given you links to where burkas have been used in robberies just the same as if a crash helmet had been used.
Clearly Denmark and the other countries who have banned it in public have a different view to yourself and see plenty of reason as to why it shouldn't be allowed. |
No i'm not as countries have banned the use of burkas in public and so they had good reason to be able to pass such a law.
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
(Post 12021753)
No i'm not as countries have banned the use of burkas in public and so they had good reason to be able to pass such a law.
If it did then I must assume they also banned fancy dress outfits, as, statistically, they would have been used in several more orders magnitudes of crimes than Burkas. It's just a nonsense argument. You should at least stick to reality. I accept there are many reasons why Burkas present issues to society, but criminality demonstrably isn't one of them. I'm also waiting to hear a argument that makes sensible case as to how banning Burkas would do more good than harm. |
Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
(Post 12021744)
So you think that's it when I clearly said that was just from a quick google search with no effort put in to looking?
It makes me laugh when comparing a burka to a crash helmet as mentioned earlier in this thread. As a biker for 25 years I can tell everyone you cant go into shops or petrol stations without being asked to remove your crash helmet for security reasons. Try asking someone wearing a burka to remove it for the same reason. Banning the Burka won't solve any problems, on the contrary, it will only infuriate and increase anger. And my opinion stands, that it goes against the rights of freedom that we have in the UK! If you really feel passionate about women being forced by their religion to wear the Burka, rather than taking a negative approach by simply banning it, I would suggest a better approach would be positively educate the community to encourage them not to wear it. Getting someone to do something voluntarily is always better then forcing them to do it! Have any of those countries that have banned the burka seen any sort of reduction in Islamic terrorism as a direct result? |
Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
(Post 12021750)
I have given you links to where burkas have been used in robberies just the same as if a crash helmet had been used.
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Originally Posted by Mr Fuji
(Post 12021589)
Acceptable until the law says so, I think you'll find. It is still a tiny minority of people who wear bhurkas. I can honestly say I see more Japanese tourists wearing face masks than I do people wearing bhurkas. As for people in motorcycle helmets........
Why, then, do they not require a burkha-wearing person to do the same? It's the apparent inequality that annoys most folk, you'll find. I couldn't give a monkey's toss if they want to go round ACTUALLY dressed as post boxes, let alone as they presently do, but if the rules state something, it's NOT one thing for us and one for them. As for wearing the burkha and driving.........::cuckoo: |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 12021783)
But the law DOES NOT require folk wearing balaclavas and motorcycle helmets to uncover at petrol stations, or in banks. Yet the places themselves DO require that. And would enforce it by refusal of service if anyone refused to uncover.
Why, then, do they not require a burkha-wearing person to do the same? It's the apparent inequality that annoys most folk, you'll find. I couldn't give a monkey's toss if they want to go round ACTUALLY dressed as post boxes, let alone as they presently do, but if the rules state something, it's NOT one thing for us and one for them. As for wearing the burkha and driving.........::cuckoo: As for the bhurka and driving, as long as it doesn't interfere with them controlling the vehicle? Maybe they are made from flame retardent cloth, and they are all about safety......... Anyway, I'm going for a sit down....... ;) |
Most relevant interviews around this issue have been from an organisation that are trying to address gender equality within Islam, their feedback is that liberals defending the bhurka/niqab (on the back of the Boris comments) are actually harming their work to date.
Sorry can't remember the organisations name, it was on 6Music news last night. |
The women wearing the burkas with no slit at the front were hilarious looking when I was in Dubia earlier this year.
Whilst I tried not to look, women eating wearing them was equally as stupid. Unhook it, or lift it up a bit, insert some food in the gob, and hook it back on again, or left go of it. |
Originally Posted by urban
(Post 12021808)
The women wearing the burkas with no slit at the front were hilarious looking when I was in Dubia earlier this year.
Whilst I tried not to look, women eating wearing them was equally as stupid. Unhook it, or lift it up a bit, insert some food in the gob, and hook it back on again, or left go of it. |
Loving the bit about talking them into not wearing a burkha, from our resident liberals.
Isn't that called appeasement? Tell me how that went for you last time??? LOL |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 12021816)
Loving the bit about talking them into not wearing a burkha, from our resident liberals.
Isn't that called appeasement? Tell me how that went for you last time??? LOL |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 12021816)
Loving the bit about talking them into not wearing a burkha, from our resident liberals.
Isn't that called appeasement? Tell me how that went for you last time??? LOL |
LOL, what a complete cnut you are.
No expalanation, just a supposed clever post. Fukc off you tw@ |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 12021847)
LOL, what a complete cnut you are.
No expalanation, just a supposed clever post. Fukc off you tw@ |
Originally Posted by urban
(Post 12021808)
The women wearing the burkas with no slit at the front were hilarious looking when I was in Dubia earlier this year.
Whilst I tried not to look, women eating wearing them was equally as stupid. Unhook it, or lift it up a bit, insert some food in the gob, and hook it back on again, or left go of it. |
Originally Posted by alanbell
(Post 12021881)
A Lady was doing this in Harvey Niks in Leeds last Saturday, ( well someone dressed in a burka ??? )
Someone with a hoodie was stopped by security and asked to lower the hood, a women(presumably) in a burka almost immediately walked straight in, not a peep out of the security guard. Its funny you mention presumably. I chap I know does security work somewhere close to Iraq. He told me once, that the first thing he looks at is the size of the hands and feet, to try to give him a clue who is approaching |
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 12021870)
interesting, you don't believe that women should be free to choose what they wear, yet presumably you think you should be free to insult whoever you want, in any way you want?
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Originally Posted by trails
(Post 12021889)
Ignoring that mad old sod for a moment Martin...do you not agree that these forms of dress are subjugation and should not be done away with; isn't this an opportunity to support the organisations working within Islam to fight for equal rights?
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Originally Posted by trails
(Post 12021889)
Ignoring that mad old sod for a moment Martin...do you not agree that these forms of dress are subjugation and should not be done away with; isn't this an opportunity to support the organisations working within Islam to fight for equal rights?
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I just wish I could find the organisation I heard quoted on the news, the interviewee was excellent and I'd like to hear the whole piece. :)
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
(Post 12021916)
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Beginning to think your a recruitment officer for migrant workers :lol:
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What's ridiculous about all this is the minuscule number of burka-wearing muslim women. In France, which has had a ban since 2011, the French secret service found that only 367 women actually wore them, and then only occasionally. That's 0.01% of the French muslim population. So in reality, it's a non issue that is being used to trigger islamophobes. Boris knows exactly how to do this, by adopting Trump-style populist language. "Good old Boris, he tells it like it is". This is all about Boris, not burkas. Personally, I think they're ridiculous in this country and in this day and age, and my Afghani neighbour thinks so too. She wears a Hijab, a headscarf remarkably similar to the one worn by the Queen when she's out in the Landy at Sandringham.
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
(Post 12021988)
Beginning to think your a recruitment officer for migrant workers :lol:
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Should make Boris wear the burka , maybe it would save a lot of fuss
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 12021996)
Well I do recruit a lot of overseas workers... And?
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