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the shreksta 22 April 2018 07:02 PM

Paint work just peeled off during a wash
 
So I'm really fekking angry at the minute, I've just washed my car and there was a stubborn mark on the paint (tar I guess) so I moved closer with my pressure washer approximately 6-8 inches away and it blew the paint off.

The paintwork is 3 month old as I had a full front end re-spray in January,Surely a karcher washer shouldn't peel away paintwork. Guess I am now looking at another bumper re-spray :freak3::freak3::freak3:


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RobsyUK 22 April 2018 07:17 PM

Who painted it. Don’t mention a pressure washer just your garden hose. Say you noticed it bubble and then while hiding down it just fell off.

they should repair that for free

the shreksta 22 April 2018 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by RobsyUK (Post 12006764)
Who painted it. Don’t mention a pressure washer just your garden hose. Say you noticed it bubble and then while hiding down it just fell off.

they should repair that for free

local bodyshop who ive used numerous times along with a lot of people I know.

will pop in to see him this week to see what he says, gutted as I was planning on having the car detailed in a few weeks along with a full paint correction

carl heath 22 April 2018 07:34 PM

I run my own bodyshop and I wouldn’t honour a free respray on it ! Jet wash that close only one outcome especially after market paintwork :nono:
Most shops would know its a power washer that’s done that as otherwise you would be able to scrape surrounding paint off due to lack of adhesion

stonejedi 22 April 2018 07:36 PM

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Shrek mate is this the shampoo that you use?:D.SJ.

stonejedi 22 April 2018 07:39 PM

Very shoddy spray job by the looks of it, i had a smart repair done on my Scooby 6 years ago now and you could not tell where it is it still looks factory fresh.SJ.

the shreksta 22 April 2018 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by stonejedi (Post 12006772)
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Shrek mate is this the shampoo that you use?:D.SJ.

lol either that or instead of paint he used a Crayola crayon :lol1:

stonejedi 22 April 2018 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12006775)
lol either that or instead of paint he used a Crayola crayon :lol1:

:lol1:Crayon...In all honesty mate the paint coat looks so thin he must of applied the cheapest top coat available,i have never seen a fresh spray job peel off so easy pressure washer or not,shoddy workmanship in my opinion, Take it back!.SJ.

JDM_Stig 22 April 2018 07:49 PM

is there any primer on it ?

FranK RA 22 April 2018 07:50 PM

Was thinking the same....

nikon-man 22 April 2018 07:50 PM

that's why I never use a pressure washer on my car......

fpan 22 April 2018 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by JDM_Stig (Post 12006777)
is there any primer on it ?

^This. A special primer for plastic is needed before painting plastic parts.

Gsi Jay 22 April 2018 08:12 PM

I've had to have my rear bumper resprayed a couple of times in the 11+ years i've owned mine and used pressure washers on it plenty of times during that period and i've never had that happen, i bet your gutted. :(

carl heath 22 April 2018 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by fpan (Post 12006780)
^This. A special primer for plastic is needed before painting plastic parts.

Which is clear / transparent so you wouldnt see it ?? Unless a non sanding primer was used with plastic primer additive but you still wont know if was used or not as the additive is clear

carl heath 22 April 2018 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by Gsi Jay (Post 12006781)
I've had to have my rear bumper resprayed a couple of times in the 11+ years i've owned mine and used pressure washers on it plenty of times during that period and i've never had that happen, i bet your gutted. :(

May just of been lucky ??
Theres no rules saying you cant jet wash aftermarket paint but you do need to be realistic too, if say you have a small stonechip and are blasting very close in that area then obviously gonna have troubles

jazzyjembreaze 22 April 2018 10:23 PM

Told you about using pressure washers on your other paint woe thread.
Tut tut ....

Turbovin 23 April 2018 01:06 AM

Crappy paint job. Don't know what kind of Kärcher you have but most of the cheaper consumer washers don't really cause that much problems, they're simply not strong enough. I use a washing station with huge industrial pressure washers and there you need to be careful and keep your distance but not even those have caused me any problems on repainted parts.

6-8 inches is a bit on the close side though but a good paint job would have taken it with a entry level pressure washer.

ZANY 23 April 2018 07:36 AM

Surely the laquer or top coat should have peeled off first :eek:

I’ve had a 20p sized area of laquer come off front of mine doing the same thing few year ago and left it as is as I don’t want any fresh paint on the car

After looking at what’s happened to yours I’m Defo not getting it sorted glad I’ve not had it resprayed :(

Hope you get it sorted without too much hassle :thumb:

jaygsi 23 April 2018 09:04 AM

Are you saying aftermarket spraying is no where near up to the same standard as factory?



Originally Posted by carl heath
I run my own bodyshop and I wouldn’t honour a free respray on it ! Jet wash that close only one outcome especially after market paintwork :nono:
Most shops would know its a power washer that’s done that as otherwise you would be able to scrape surrounding paint off due to lack of adhesion


scooby kid 23 April 2018 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by jaygsi (Post 12006818)
Are you saying aftermarket spraying is no where near up to the same standard as factory?

Round my area 100% no!
ive had several items over the past years painted and i never get a factory finish, and ive not used cheap/back street places either!

bustaMOVEs 23 April 2018 06:48 PM

All painters are different imo, they all say they are the best etc, I've used loads in past, and nowadays I've found someone who is super good at his job and can blend paintwork into car factory paint and you will never know it's been resprayed. I will never look elsewhere now as before I was always looking for a good painter.
A couple of people in my area can vouch too he's that good, done a few local scooby too and scooby guys are fussy.

carl heath 23 April 2018 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by jaygsi (Post 12006818)
Are you saying aftermarket spraying is no where near up to the same standard as factory?

Most definate mate factory paint is 9/10 times a better quality product and as it is cured at much higher temperatues compared to body shop aftermarket paint its tougher, also manufacturers have better setups to control conditions such temp,humidity and cleanliness. Factory paint is also the best foundation if aftermarket paint has to be done ie repairs.bodyshop products all shrink its just part of curing process such as fillers primers basecoats and clears they all shrink to a certain degree when curing which can take up to 3 months and more depending on product environment and application .

carl heath 23 April 2018 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 12006877)
All painters are different imo, they all say they are the best etc, I've used loads in past, and nowadays I've found someone who is super good at his job and can blend paintwork into car factory paint and you will never know it's been resprayed. I will never look elsewhere now as before I was always looking for a good painter.
A couple of people in my area can vouch too he's that good, done a few local scooby too and scooby guys are fussy.

I have never met a painter who thinks hes the best in my 25 years in the trade ?? Must be some cocky bodyshops by you lol :thumb:

jaygsi 25 April 2018 11:10 PM

Really, can't comment too much, just on experience I've had.

I had a guy fill my front wing on my old Corsa, best spray i'd ever seen. Looked better than the factory wing and could not tell it had been filled. Never had any problems with paint flaking off, he worked out of a unit, nothing amazing no oven or anything like that.

Had a full respray by another guy, was awful, paint flaking after 2 years. And other guy i used works for chips away company, he did a cracking job on colour coding parts of my Impreza. Very good colour match. Although he said he couldn't grantee the paint would hold to the plastic surface, but its not done too bad, over 5 years ago and tiny bit of paint has come off on one handle.

It was a good price too.




Originally Posted by carl heath (Post 12006929)
Most definate mate factory paint is 9/10 times a better quality product and as it is cured at much higher temperatues compared to body shop aftermarket paint its tougher, also manufacturers have better setups to control conditions such temp,humidity and cleanliness. Factory paint is also the best foundation if aftermarket paint has to be done ie repairs.bodyshop products all shrink its just part of curing process such as fillers primers basecoats and clears they all shrink to a certain degree when curing which can take up to 3 months and more depending on product environment and application .


TheAngryFerret 25 April 2018 11:43 PM

If i had used a jet wash 6-8 inches away and my paint fell off i wouldnt be happy. Theres no way i'd except it. S*#t i rattle canned my boot spoiler, with primer, base coat and lacquer in a booth and left over night to dry. Fitted the next day and its been jet washed closer than that already and its still intact.

jaygsi 26 April 2018 09:21 AM

To be honest i wouldn't get that close to my paint work of a car i cared about. But i'm surprised of how the paints come off.


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