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dpb 04 June 2019 04:38 PM

Smashes ev record....

dpb 04 June 2019 04:39 PM

If he'd charged the batteries up with solar , that morning , I'd have been impressed

BMWhere? 05 June 2019 12:34 PM

VW ID.R All Electric = 6:05
Porsche 919 Petrol Hybrid = 5:19

When an EV can win Le Mans, then I'll be impressed! :thumb:

andy97 08 September 2019 11:46 AM

Electric car take up has increased rapidly with Tesla listing at no 3 on sales last month in the UK of overall vehicle sales.

Decline in hybrids is gathering pace

Good news

dpb 08 September 2019 12:34 PM

Sales of electic Doubled in a year

up to 1% of all sales !

andy97 08 September 2019 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 12060934)
Sales of electic Doubled in a year

up to 1% of all sales !

Its a bit like apple v Android. Just give it a little time.

lozgti1 09 September 2019 10:29 AM

All they simply need to do is price them properly. In fact, just slightly less than a normal car

Everyone would buy one. Someone could make a fortune and the Middle East would stop buying our football teams.lol

dpb 09 September 2019 10:51 AM

But how many of these are solar powered ?

its only rich and poor people can run them presently

Tidgy 09 September 2019 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by lozgti1 (Post 12061023)
All they simply need to do is price them properly. In fact, just slightly less than a normal car

Everyone would buy one. Someone could make a fortune and the Middle East would stop buying our football teams.lol

any pollution sky rockets.

andy97 17 September 2019 07:51 AM

:banana:We pick up our Tesla Model 3 next week :D

dpb 17 September 2019 08:46 AM

I dont know how anybody can claim this is a low cost car

was it delivered on a electric transporter ?

andy97 17 September 2019 09:05 AM

Space X I believe:lol1:

jaygsi 17 September 2019 10:27 AM

This is the fuel of the future





Originally Posted by dpb (Post 12035299)
So have i got this right

There's almost no benefit to the environment in having a leccy car in places where coal is king ie most the undeveloped world


Tidgy 17 September 2019 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by andy97 (Post 12061759)
:banana:We pick up our Tesla Model 3 next week :D

you pollutionist you, hahahaha

please tell me you didn't buy it because of its 'green' credentials?

dpb 17 September 2019 03:39 PM

I can't helping thinking buying a new car every year is the real problem here ,regardless of its credentials

andy97 17 September 2019 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 12061804)
I can't helping thinking buying a new car every year is the real problem here ,regardless of its credentials

Something like 90% of all new vehicles seen om UK roads are leased. Alot by people who cant afford to lease

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...FCg1EjJvLnjjLy

In the meantime driving an EV will help against this upsetting research

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...lacentas-study

Tidgy 17 September 2019 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 12061804)
I can't helping thinking buying a new car every year is the real problem here ,regardless of its credentials

some are worse that others, electric being the worst of the bunch unless you go above something the size of a 5 series bmw

dpb 17 September 2019 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by andy97 (Post 12061811)
Something like 90% of all new vehicles seen om UK roads are leased. Alot by people who cant afford to lease

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...FCg1EjJvLnjjLy

In the meantime driving an EV will help against this upsetting research

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...lacentas-study


So its better for a few rich to buy new rather then the many to rent ?

andy97 17 September 2019 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 12061832)
So its better for a few rich to buy new rather then the many to rent ?

It is just a financial time bomb, like sub prime mortgages. It will come back to bite those who can least afford to lease a car.

Live within your means, whatever level rhat maybe

jaygsi 17 September 2019 08:49 PM

Fully agree watched a programme explaining it. Plus I believe it said it would back lash on the car manufacturers and explained why. It's on YouTube somewhere.


Originally Posted by andy97
It is just a financial time bomb, like sub prime mortgages. It will come back to bite those who can least afford to lease a car.

Live within your means, whatever level rhat maybe


lozgti1 18 September 2019 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by andy97 (Post 12061834)
It is just a financial time bomb, like sub prime mortgages. It will come back to bite those who can least afford to lease a car.

Live within your means, whatever level rhat maybe

Felt like a weight off my shoulders when I paid mine off.

And I'll keep it for another 5 years now...

dpb 18 September 2019 08:17 PM

All deals i can see involve people never owing the vehicle

andy97 21 September 2019 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 12061884)
All deals i can see involve people never owing the vehicle

Thats the whole point. You sign upto 3 years to pay for a vehicles- nice and new- coz people like to show off their lovely new motor they're driving, paying quite alot each month Lease cars are restricted on mileage, require the borrower to service and maintain thee vehicle as per agreement. Then come the end either pay a big balloon payment to actually own the car or give it back. The person is then stuck with either pay balloon (which most haven't got). Have no car, either sign up to another lease deal or buy a cheaper older car- folk invariably wont do the latter for fear of community standing. Meanwhile owning a lease car has a drain on finance for other commitments.

All well and good if income can meet the never ending lease treadmill.

lozgti1 21 September 2019 08:58 AM

Watched a video the other day " people buy cars to impress people they don't even like"

Lol

dpb 21 September 2019 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by andy97 (Post 12061991)
Thats the whole point. You sign upto 3 years to pay for a vehicles- nice and new- coz people like to show off their lovely new motor they're driving, paying quite alot each month Lease cars are restricted on mileage, require the borrower to service and maintain thee vehicle as per agreement. Then come the end either pay a big balloon payment to actually own the car or give it back. The person is then stuck with either pay balloon (which most haven't got). Have no car, either sign up to another lease deal or buy a cheaper older car- folk invariably wont do the latter for fear of community standing. Meanwhile owning a lease car has a drain on finance for other commitments.

All well and good if income can meet the never ending lease treadmill.


i hope youre not claiming its more expensive than the depreciation on a new car

andy97 21 September 2019 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 12062005)
i hope youre not claiming its more expensive than the depreciation on a new car

They're paying for the depreciation in the first 3 years which is the greatest amount, then asked to buy a car with an inflated balloon payment.

PCP, lease all benefit those who sell them not the user of the car.

Unless you're leasing through a business where tax breaks can be of benefit

dpb 21 September 2019 11:13 AM

Well you wouldnt make the ballon payment , that would be crazy

andy97 23 September 2019 07:23 PM

Vote labour, get lots more EVs and charge points:Suspiciou

lozgti1 23 September 2019 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by andy97 (Post 12062178)
Vote labour, get lots more EVs and charge points:Suspiciou

:lol1:

dpb 24 September 2019 08:07 AM

He'd have to become a remainer !


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