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Rick2017 15 January 2018 08:07 PM

New ignition barrel and key
 
Hi I bought a brand new ignition barrel ,housing and key for my 97 uk2000 wagon.I fitted it and it wont start.But if I refit my old barrel and key it starts.There is a black plastic housing around the the barrel with a black wire coming out of it for the security I assume.Im pretty certain my key doesn't have a chip in it.Any ideas on where I'm going wrong please

debbiesonic 15 January 2018 11:14 PM

Uk classics had the passive transponder. JDM didn't.
Your on the right track, the key has to go through the black plastic ring (antenna) in order for it to disable the immobiliser.
It's been a while since I've looked at a classic ignition barrel, so I can't say for sure, but doesn't the ring just unclip so you fit it onto your new ignition barrel.

Rick2017 16 January 2018 08:08 AM

I did fit the black plastic housing over my new barrel but the car didn't want to no 🙄 as soon as I put my old one back on it starts.I have the flat key type

debbiesonic 16 January 2018 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Rick2017 (Post 11989500)
I did fit the black plastic housing over my new barrel but the car didn't want to no 🙄 as soon as I put my old one back on it starts.I have the flat key type

I'm guessing you've got a new barrel with a new key then. If that is the case you will need your original key to be close to the black ring. Try holding your original key against the ring whilst using the new key to start the car.

Rick2017 16 January 2018 08:27 PM

Yeah I have.I wonder if I can have the immobiliser turned off because I already have an after market alarm already fitted

Rick2017 01 April 2018 02:14 PM

Must be a way around it

Don Clark 01 April 2018 03:23 PM

You could always move the transponder chip from your old key to the new one. OR
If you purchased the items from Subaru it's very likely the new key has a new transponder chip in it that needs programming to the ecu/security module.
There are companies out there who will do it for you.
Read this link about obtaining new transponder keys and especially the info on key programming.........
https://www.carkeyfirstaid.co.uk/sub...ey-nsn14t.html
and don't get bogged down reading American sites as most of it is different to UK.

Rick2017 01 April 2018 06:27 PM

I don't think I will be able to move the chip over to the new key. New key's on the right mine on the left https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...8d329f6910.jpg

Rick2017 01 April 2018 06:29 PM

I already have a car alarm fitted seperate to the factory one

Don Clark 01 April 2018 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by debbiesonic
Try holding your original key against the ring whilst using the new key to start the car.

I'm assuming you've tried this and the car starts OK - your reply wasn't very clear.

Well if the old key is no longer in use and you have a decent (cat1) alarm system, I'd be looking at removing the transponder from it and fitting it where the signal can be picked up by the security module aerial.

Another option would be to get two transponder keys cut at somewhere like Timpsons and have the new transponders cloned to the old one.
https://www.timpson.co.uk/services/car-keys

Rick2017 01 April 2018 08:49 PM

At the moment I'm still using the old barrel and key because the new one won't start the car. I could try that idea and see where it goes :)

JDM_Stig 02 April 2018 06:30 AM

Why not remove the chip from the old key , drill a hole in the new key, insert chip in drilled hole, and glue up to stop chip falling out,
Or just tape the immobiliser chip to the new ignition and rely on the cat 1 to protect your car.

Rick2017 02 April 2018 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by JDM_Stig (Post 12003490)
Why not remove the chip from the old key , drill a hole in the new key, insert chip in drilled hole, and glue up to stop chip falling out,
Or just tape the immobiliser chip to the new ignition and rely on the cat 1 to protect your car.

Sounds like a plan

JDM_Stig 03 April 2018 03:46 PM

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KEY-BLANK....c100005.m1851

what about getting this cut for the new ignition and then just slide your chip in.

Rick2017 03 April 2018 05:10 PM

Where does the chip live started removing bits of the plastic from the key https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...cc07bcbe8f.jpg

JDM_Stig 03 April 2018 05:33 PM

in that image used on ebay, the part where it is stored should be visible from near the blade.


Rick2017 23 April 2018 07:24 PM

Sorted now

JDM_Stig 23 April 2018 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by Rick2017 (Post 12006892)
Sorted now

How did you sort it ?

Rick2017 23 April 2018 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by JDM_Stig (Post 12006897)
How did you sort it ?

I took the chip out of the key and taped it to the transponder then moved it out of sight

JDM_Stig 23 April 2018 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by Rick2017 (Post 12006900)
I took the chip out of the key and taped it to the transponder then moved it out of sight

Fair enough.

Rick2017 23 April 2018 08:26 PM

I've a full cat1 alarm.

JDM_Stig 23 April 2018 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by Rick2017 (Post 12006905)
I've a full cat1 alarm.

Yeah, JDM`s dont have a OE immobiliser

Rick2017 28 April 2018 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by JDM_Stig (Post 12006910)
Yeah, JDM`s dont have a OE immobiliser

Pitty it carnt be removed :lol1:

JDM_Stig 29 April 2018 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Rick2017 (Post 12007694)
Pitty it carnt be removed :lol1:

It can, but not something I can see you doing.

Rick2017 29 April 2018 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by JDM_Stig (Post 12007769)
It can, but not something I can see you doing.

oh cheers mate :lol1:

idan 10 November 2021 12:53 PM

i had the same issue with my car and tried to fix it in many ways and just ended up calling an auto locksmith.


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