which turbo for around 400bhp semi-forged 2.5
so im looking for around 400bhp give or take 10bhp from my hawk sti
it has.... 2.5 built by scoobyclinic with closed deck inserts mahle 2618 pistons std rods with arp rod bolts new crank new acl race series bearings throughout cosworth headgaskets assumed 11mm arp head studs rebuilt heads with upgraded valves/springs and retainers engine has covered 8k @ 351 ran on royal purple oil since build with 2 x oil changes so far other modifications are.... hybrid vf43 from cr turbos japspeed fmic scoobyclinic induction kit full decat with 2.5 inch exhaust and vortex backbox std headers and up-pipe denso 750cc injectors walbro fuel pump extreme lightweight flywheel and ap racing clutch looking for a suitable turbo to reach around 400bhp, though about the sc42 but quite expensive @ nearly £1800 any other suggestions? cant run massive amounts of boost due to rods being std, also car is a fast road car only-no track work |
mdx321h for 400bhp or buy 321t if planning to change rods in future
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Originally Posted by Neil XR
(Post 11987707)
mdx321h for 400bhp or buy 321t if planning to change rods in future
Mdx also a expensive turbo though, I'm sure there are blowers out there for around 1k that will do the job. Will speak with Owen developments and also engine tuner about their t36 unit |
Scooby Clinics SC42 would blow on your car nicely:thumb:,im a big fan of SC turbos:D.....pricey but worth it for thier reliability and quality.SJ.
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Plus1 here for the sc42, that good I'm going same route again.
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i am running an owens development gt2860rs turbo in stock location at 1.65 bar of boost on my 2 ltr engine
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
(Post 11987710)
Already discussed rods on another thread buddy, won't be changing them unless engine decides to **** itself.
Mdx also a expensive turbo though, I'm sure there are blowers out there for around 1k that will do the job. Will speak with Owen developments and also engine tuner about their t36 unit |
Gotta work out if the sc42 would be 600 quid better than the t36 from engine tuner as they come in at around 1100 smackers and offer between 380-450 bhp.
Also forgot to mention that I will be changing the headers for either ported as performance sti ones or a set of rcm ones if I see a set at a decent price. Thanks guys |
Originally Posted by stonejedi
(Post 11987715)
Shrek my mate had a t36 turbo 2 years ago on his Subaru he was always raving how good it was....until it crapped itself at 410hp pi55ing oil out all over the place:( he now runs a SC42.SJ.
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How about td05 18g?
I picked up my Andy Forrest version for £500,its making 380/380 at just under 1.5 bar on a 2.1,with slightly better fueling it could have squeezed a little more out. So could get you just under the 400 mark on your set up. I don't think you can beat it for bang for buck. |
I thought the t36 was out of production due to not getting the Tweeks sorted.
You may want to change exhaust to a true 3" and some better headers and a Harvey uppipe. |
And you can't beat the sc42 as the drivability is awesome, and I think I was at around 440hp on my last map.
This video was when I first fitted it and without avcs working and at just over 400hp at the time, few Tweeks needed to finalise it after some issues but just look at how quick it flys round the rpm gauge. |
Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
(Post 11987721)
I thought the t36 was out of production due to not getting the Tweeks sorted.
You may want to change exhaust to a true 3" and some better headers and a Harvey uppipe. |
Originally Posted by the shreksta
(Post 11987735)
It's a 3 inch decat going to a 2.5 center section so will get that changed. What sort of boost would be I be running on an sc42 for around 400bhp?
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Just read your first post on this thread,with the mods that you have already your practicaly there mate.SJ.
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Originally Posted by S744hdv
(Post 11987720)
How about td05 18g?
I picked up my Andy Forrest version for £500,its making 380/380 at just under 1.5 bar on a 2.1,with slightly better fueling it could have squeezed a little more out. So could get you just under the 400 mark on your set up. I don't think you can beat it for bang for buck. |
Originally Posted by stonejedi
(Post 11987741)
Just read your first post on this thread,with the mods that you have already your practicaly there mate.SJ.
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
(Post 11987740)
Around 1.6/1.8 bar with supporting mods i.e right size injectors/fuel pressure,uprated fuel pump exhaust manifold up/down pipe exhaust etc....should see you there ,but remember no two cars are the same.SJ.
still learning all this mumbo-jumbo so again forgive me if im wrong |
Originally Posted by stonejedi
(Post 11987740)
Around 1.6/1.8 bar with supporting mods i.e right size injectors/fuel pressure,uprated fuel pump exhaust manifold up/down pipe exhaust etc....should see you there ,but remember no two cars are the same.SJ.
The drivability is awesome, makes a excellent point to point car or rapid daily (if I didn't want that so much I'd of chosen a bigger turbo like I was going to do, but it just wouldn't be as Rapid as that, so lower hp is sometimes faster on the right roads). On your 2.5 is will spool way faster. May spin all 4s in 4th lol, mine span in 3rd on damp roads lol. |
The lower boost, you can add more timing , higher boost is less timing, so say 1.5 bar and a nice amount of ignition timing will still probably achieve you more than 400, that's if all the mods and flow are correct
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An sc38 will need pushing to get 400s, so more boost etc
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
(Post 11987748)
The lower boost, you can add more timing , higher boost is less timing, so say 1.5 bar and a nice amount of ignition timing will still probably achieve you more than 400, that's if all the mods and flow are correct
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
(Post 11987749)
An sc38 will need pushing to get 400s, so more boost etc
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
(Post 11987745)
now then forgive me if im wrong but that seems a lot of boost to be running on the standard ecu and my std rods. i was always told to buy the smallest turbo to reach my goal so maybe an sc38 would be a better choice over an sc42 as i wouldnt be running as much boost then and still make around 380+bhp.
still learning all this mumbo-jumbo so again forgive me if im wrong |
Originally Posted by stonejedi
(Post 11987752)
Your right to fit the smallest turbo for the job but for your engine the SC42 would be perfect,the smaller the turbo "SC38" the more boost pressure you would have to run for the same peak power of the SC42.SJ.
or if my balls were bigger i could run an sc46 for more oompf, seen quite a few threads were people have ran an sc46 on std rods @ 440bhp. sometimes i wish i was on drugs/beer as it would seem easier than this lol |
Thats why on my car I can run under 2bar on my GT3582R and still have over 600 bhp:thumb:.SJ.
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
(Post 11987742)
have you a graph available?
Blue line is high @ just under 1.5 bar https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...c62af13254.jpg Looking at the boost graph it looks like its actually just under 1.4 bar. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...e09a2e56cc.png |
Originally Posted by stonejedi
(Post 11987756)
Thats why on my car I can run under 2bar on my GT3582R and still have over 600 bhp:thumb:.SJ.
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My MD321H ran 420hp at 1.4 bar and 440hp at 1.55 bar, that's with 20% meth on a 2.5 with wrx heads.
A SC42 or 321H should get the high 300's at 1.4-1.5 bar on straight fuel. Trev |
Originally Posted by the shreksta
(Post 11987763)
fekking show off
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