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David Lock 26 November 2017 07:28 PM

Binoculars
 
I want to get Lock Jnr a pair of binoculars to view sky and take to gigs to see bands a long way away.


So please suggest suitable decent pair with good resolution and not too heavy. Say £60 to £100.


Thank you,


David

Dingdongler 26 November 2017 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by David Lock (Post 11980440)
I want to get Lock Jnr a pair of binoculars to view sky and take to gigs to see bands a long way away.


So please suggest suitable decent pair with good resolution and not too heavy. Say £60 to £100.


Thank you,


David


What's the point of that?:D

Just buy better tickets:)

David Lock 26 November 2017 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by Dingdongler (Post 11980441)
What's the point of that?:D

Just buy better tickets:)


:)


And perhaps he should nip up to the moon for clearer sky view? :rolleyes:



David

andy97 26 November 2017 07:53 PM

I had a cheap pair of binoculars from years ago I thought they were decent until

I bought a mid range pair of Leica binoculars. The image quality is superb. Buy a qualityt set

Dingdongler 26 November 2017 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by David Lock (Post 11980448)
:)


And perhaps he should nip up to the moon for clearer sky view? :rolleyes:



David




Seriously, what is the point of going to see a band through a pair of binoculars:confused:

David Lock 26 November 2017 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by andy97 (Post 11980449)
I had a cheap pair of binoculars from years ago I thought they were decent until

I bought a mid range pair of Leica binoculars. The image quality is superb. Buy a qualityt set


So helpful, thanks.


Leica do a nice pair at just £1329 - what a bargain.


Why the f,uck do you think I gave my budget spend?


:mad:

tarmac terror 26 November 2017 10:18 PM

I'd give these guys a call

https://www.firstlightoptics.com

If you can stretch to a copy of "turn left at Orion", it will help young Lock get the best from his gift.

BTW : I don't think a pair of binos for looking at the night sky will be practical for use at gigs / festivals

ditchmyster 27 November 2017 09:06 AM

My suggestion would be to separate the two objectives and make two purchases of items that are more suited to each task.

Festivals etc you don't really want to be wondering about the place with full size bulky binoculars that are worth the best part of 100 quid... apart from looking like some kind of weirdo he's going to have to keep track of them, which is just going to be a ball ache... so with that in mind he wants something like these.


I have something similar £10 quid jobbies perfectly good for the sort of range your after, easy to stick in your pocket and no big deal if the get lost or broken.

For the other application I have a land and sky telescope just like this one, it's a bit tricky to get the hang of in the beginning, but once you suss it out you can see the surface of the moon and pick out the constellations as well as being able to see stuff on land... again if you have the patience.... also not going to break the bank and then he can decide if he wants to get serious and buy a motorised telescope and really get into star gazing.


Edit to add just looked at the reviews of this product and some of them are not very good... I've had mine about 10yrs so maybe the quality has changed, may be worth looking at another product, but at least you get the idea.

HTH

Mr Fuji 27 November 2017 11:17 AM

I have a pair of Nikon Aculon 10x50 which I use a fair bit, not big magnification but excellent image for the price and bright enough. Good compromise of performance and size, though not sure how cool you'd look at a gig! I think paid about a ton for them.

Mr Fuji 27 November 2017 11:25 AM

Actually, they are 10x42, these

Just to add, for night sky, you can see Jupiter's moons with them, and obviously the moon is always a good target, but you need a telescope to look at anything else. You can get an adapter to fit them to a tripod, as looking at night sky objects with them gets a bit shaky!

David Lock 27 November 2017 12:41 PM

Thanks chaps - back on track a bit :thumb:


The Nikon Aculon might well fit the bill.


I tend to agree with comments about taking binoculars to gigs but he had been taking a £3500 camera with long lens and I have been trying to wean him off that habit.


Years ago I bought a telescope but it was a real pain. Only an upmarket toy really and by the time I had fiddled with all the knobs to see the moon the bloody thing had moved out of sight :Whatever_


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Mr Fuji 27 November 2017 12:44 PM

Tracking telescopes have become quite affordable now, so it just keeps on moving with them. If he has a £3.5k camera, he is obviosly quite serious about his photography and he can get a T-ring adapter for it and capture some spectacular shots of objects in the sky.

David Lock 27 November 2017 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Mr Fuji (Post 11980538)
Tracking telescopes have become quite affordable now, so it just keeps on moving with them. If he has a £3.5k camera, he is obviosly quite serious about his photography and he can get a T-ring adapter for it and capture some spectacular shots of objects in the sky.




He's certainly serious about photography and a few weeks ago took off for Rio just to take some shots. The resolution is stunning. But he has a lot to learn. He also is pretty clued up about the sky (bit of a Brian May :D) so please tell me what a T-ring adapter is. Camera is a Sony RX100 Mk 5 body plus some fancy lenses (A7R2).


I'll also check out what a T-Ring adapter is.


David

Mr Fuji 27 November 2017 02:53 PM

This sort of stuff. That just makes the telescope become the lens, which is fine for objects like the moon, but for really good resolution and smaller objects, you then need to add a Barlow lens for magnification. You can get dual Barlow/T adapters if need be.

Midlife...... 27 November 2017 04:58 PM

I bought some cheap Sunagor one's from Amazon for looking at the birds and stuff out the back of our house. I had never heard of the Sunagor name and was amazed at how good they were for the price :)

andy97 27 November 2017 09:05 PM

Your son uses a £3.5k camera and lenses. If you give him a £100 binoculars, the optics will be extremely poor in comparison. He will spot that immediately. You might aswell give him a magnifying glass out of a cracker

njkmrs 27 November 2017 10:14 PM

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