Half of them don't work anyway ,

And is this number clearly visible on this occasion when observed by the microlight & drone - presumably not as the article does not state that she is 100% certain it was her caravan and can prove it.

Some sites are privately owned and there is nothing you can do to get around it.

I'm not wriggling, I'm not a coward and I don't have a speed camera to hide behind. What I do have is a set of laws which I have to follow - unless you of course know of another entry power for this one?

Ho ho, on the hook and knows it.

Your colleagues don't quite match up to your lofty ideals, do they?

:D

How is anyone on the hook?

Where's the power to search then?

Why is it a search and not just an investigation? You would be investigating a potential lead.

Yes, you have a potential lead. But to enter a premises or part of a premises you have to have a power to search, such as a warrant or power under PACE.

And there are various sections of each element that you need to satisfy to be able to use the power.

Its not as easy as saying - I have a lead, therefore I can do what I like to investigate it.

https://www.gov.uk/police-powers-to-...ch-your-rights


Lots of excuses there to warrant a search. See your at your old law crap again get on with it and do your job.

But this relates to stop and search? Not about entering property, surely that is different?

So why don't you investigate it and if it turns something up you then get a search warrant to search the place.

Are you saying that you as a cop could not come into my garden and ask me questions about a caravan parked on my property without a search warrant?

Post 28 EVEN FELIX admits the law can be bent to suit themselves :lol1:

also it states ".....A police officer has powers to stop and search you if they have ‘reasonable grounds’ to suspect you’re carrying a stolen item....."

In this case (although it relates to property as scoobypaul states) you can not state that the caravan is in there with any certainty.

You can't just say we have a belief in order to go on a fishing trip around someone property.

Frustrating, maybe - but that's the way the law is.

It was investigated in that drone was flown over but an accurate identification could not be established. I take it the caravan had no tracker fitted, there was no CCTV at the premises etc What else are you expecting to 'turn up' to get enough for a search warrant?

No, we can't enter property unless we have a power to do so. We can ask you about your caravan but you can refuse to answer.

Where does it say that?

FFS its not rocket science, of course a copper 'could' bend the rules - it doesn't mean they should, or that all WOULD :brickwall

You wrote it maybe the whole problem here is you need a visit to specsavers :lol1:

I ask again - Where does it say that the rules can be bent to suite ourselves?

Your splitting hairs here to suit yourself as the whole police force does. Alright you suggested it which means you where thinking it cause you and your compatriots are always at it when it suits, but because its a gypsy site it doesn't grow a set and do your job.

I suggested it which means I was thinking it....?

What does that mean then...?

It would not of been said if it was not being thought so it must of been in your mind to suggest it :thumb:

My car gets torched
Police come out and want to take it for forensics with there recovery people who lift uninsured cars etc at this time I take the coppers badge number etc and tell him I do have sources to have it lifted away for safety reasons but NO they need it for forensics

I get a phone call asking me to remove my vehicle from a compound at a cost of £650!!!!
I tells them it's the police who took it but no I've to pay the RECOVERY charges and the fackin STORAGE!!!
Rings the police they tell me they can't do anything blah blah blah

Lesson is I should have filmed the dirty lying scroat when he said " no you will not pay any charges as we are taking the vehicle for forensics" or atleast got it in writing :(

The travellers and the police are just the same IN MY OPINION I wouldn't ask any of the both for there services ....
don't trust any of the both and you can't go far wrong

SCOOBYTEKNIX from Blackpool sides helped me out at the time by buying the Subaru and getting it released in the end who I still rate very highly


It's just FILTH I tell you FILTH.....:mad:

Few pics to end my 20p's worth


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...587f3b06eb.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...9bf6ef1027.jpg

Your insurance should have covered that.

Did this happen on your drive? If so, there is no need to get it recovered for forensics as it could have been done there - the scene being the most important aspect of it as apposed to the car - you're not going to get much from the car in any case.

If its a police decision to lift it, then we cover the costs. I would go back and complain.

I live in a traveller's caravan now, and have visited many sites across the south and Midlands whilst buying my caravan. I've met good and bad over the years as a landscaper. But the bottom line is that they generally operate on a skued playing field, fly tipping whilst I pay a waste carrier licence and large tipping fee, working for cash and not paying tax, selling stolen or counterfeit power tools door to door.
The Police are not prepared to commit the resources necessary to enter sites because they will first have to deal with stone throwing children, and then adults who have fought for fun from childhood.
Chris registration is done on windows, not roofs, though maybe that is an idea. I visited many caravans that had just had the doors or lights stolen, and live in fear of a visit ; we've already had one bloke in a brand new van poking about, despite being a mile up a track, invisible from any roads. No insurer will cover a euro spec caravan. I wonder why.

Felix I’d love to see you enter a halting site with your gun ho attitude
More than likely leave with no clothes on and your pepper spray stuck up your arse

What 'gun ho' attitude? That's the Gene Hunt style of policing which I am saying is not right.
If you read what I have written, I am saying that we probably didn't have a power to enter.

We have traveller sites where we are and I have had no problems entering and dealing with anything we need to where necessary and lawful. There's no difference to this and entering various houses on estates to sort things out where necessary and lawful.

So if a bunch of pikeys rip off a field gate and occupy a farmers field can farmer enter field and start ploughing it up? Perhaps digging a trench around a few new Range Rovers to prevent their removal? Could he invite cops onto his land?


DL

Oh, there'll be some reason the cowardly coppers can't intervene....

Yes, for all 3

Felix, if you can arrest someone without an arrest warrent why can't you search without a search warrent?

You can, but you need a power to do so - for example, section 18 of PACE can be done without a search warrant so long as it satisfies certain criteria. Section 17 gives you a power to enter etc etc

Bent cowardly coppers only look for the easy targets
Talking all big on here
Post pics of you in the middle of a camp site tough guy