Police not allowed in to traveller site
An owner was forced to retrieve her stolen caravan from a traveller site after police refused to enter, claiming that it was unsafe.
Full story: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/cambridgeshire-police-find-stolen-caravan-hunt-too-risky-3b8nl0wlv |
Ho ho!
Where's fairy-story felix when you need him? :D :D :D |
Leave them alone!!! It's their culture.
I asked years ago if anyone had ever had a positive encounter with travellers. Still waiting for an answer. |
I lived just down the road from a traveller site in Ireland, one day the guardi turned up en mass and raided the place, they moved the caravans aside and found massive blue barrels buried under them, they were full of guns, drugs and about 1/4M euros. Of course they were all claiming the dole.
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Originally Posted by legb4rsk
(Post 11977434)
Leave them alone!!! It's their culture.
I asked years ago if anyone had ever had a positive encounter with travellers. Still waiting for an answer. they are only human and bleed as we do no body is untouchable |
Who says crime doesn’t pay eh? How can you be a traveller and very well off without breaking the law in some way or another? Wether that be robbing stuff, ripping people off, working without paying taxes etc etc. Travellers are parasites. They spread misery wherever they decide to ‘settle’.
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Originally Posted by Peedee
(Post 11977452)
Who says crime doesn’t pay eh? How can you be a traveller and very well off without breaking the law in some way or another? Wether that be robbing stuff, ripping people off, working without paying taxes etc etc. Travellers are parasites. They spread misery wherever they decide to ‘settle’.
What law?? My freind had a quad bike stolen only few years ago he seen it followed it back to a travellers site and rang the police to get it back as he didn't want any trouble exact same thing police came but wouldn't go on the site :freak3: do he rang me up so I did go in there and took it back job done It's not only the travellers dealing drugs and committing fraud day by day bro there's many others just being honest :thumb: |
I think the main issue here is there was no legal power to enter the site. So, if there is no legal power you will risk safety if you just storm the site with a few officers.
Its happened before where officers enter a house for example without a power. Home owner ejects officer, officer gets injured whilst doing so. Officer invalidates any works insurance policy for his injury and ends up under investigation too. |
Chocolate teapot
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Originally Posted by lozgti1
(Post 11977550)
Chocolate teapot
Travellers stole it and put it in a massive blue barrel under a caravan. |
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Originally Posted by legb4rsk
(Post 11977434)
Leave them alone!!! It's their culture.
I asked years ago if anyone had ever had a positive encounter with travellers. Still waiting for an answer. Few lads I know around by me sound as a pound |
Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
(Post 11977568)
Few lads I know around by me sound as a pound
Far easier to go for the vulnerable,old or naive.Much easier targets. |
Originally Posted by legb4rsk
(Post 11977434)
Leave them alone!!! It's their culture.
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Moral of the story is.....become a pikey and be rich as **** :wonder::lol1:
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Originally Posted by Alg
(Post 11977555)
I had one of them.
Travellers stole it and put it in a massive blue barrel under a caravan. :lol1::lol1::lol1: |
Originally Posted by Felix.
(Post 11977534)
I think the main issue here is there was no legal power to enter the site. So, if there is no legal power you will risk safety if you just storm the site with a few officers.
Its happened before where officers enter a house for example without a power. Home owner ejects officer, officer gets injured whilst doing so. Officer invalidates any works insurance policy for his injury and ends up under investigation too. |
Or you can carry out a hit and run, put somebody in hospital, destroy their property and the line back from Humberside Police is, "there is nothing we can do"
Case is ongoing from a insurance claim point of view, so details will end there, but I'm sure I couldn't carry out a hit and run and get away with it if the police knew who I was and where I lived. |
Originally Posted by Wurzel
(Post 11977595)
So you can stop a car on suspicion, you can stop and search a pedestrian on suspicion, you can walk upto a private house and knock on the door but you can't enter a pikey site on suspicion? Hmmmm interesting.
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Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^
(Post 11977611)
Or you can carry out a hit and run, put somebody in hospital, destroy their property and the line back from Humberside Police is, "there is nothing we can do"
Case is ongoing from a insurance claim point of view, so details will end there, but I'm sure I couldn't carry out a hit and run and get away with it if the police knew who I was and where I lived. I wonder if there's any connection to their performance? LOL |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 11977616)
Dumberside Police...one of the worst performing in the country...just had to get shut of their SECOND female chief constable....
I wonder if there's any connection to their performance? LOL |
Originally Posted by Peedee
(Post 11977452)
Who says crime doesn’t pay eh? How can you be a traveller and very well off without breaking the law in some way or another? Wether that be robbing stuff, ripping people off, working without paying taxes etc etc. Travellers are parasites. They spread misery wherever they decide to ‘settle’.
A generalization and an ignorant one at that I have a few mates who are settled travelers Meaning they used to live in caravans Now they live in houses salt of the earth people Not all are the same but there’re good and bad in all cultures and races As Bruce Lee said Under the heavens under the stars we are but one family |
What do they work at Gary? These wonderful mates of yours? Because I'm yet to meet ONE with a proper job, ie: working and paying taxes....
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Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 11977670)
What do they work at Gary? These wonderful mates of yours? Because I'm yet to meet ONE with a proper job, ie: working and paying taxes....
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And robbing washing off the clothes line
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Originally Posted by Peedee
(Post 11977672)
It’ll definately be legit. Something like tree surgery, tarmac driveways, waste collection/disposal etc. All above board lol.
Then you get ... car wash, takeaway, garage or an off licence ive seen as fronts for the rest of the drug dealing benefit cheating naughty people who live in mansions all well above board ;) :lol1: Not promoting any unlawfull activity or behaviour only opinions and experiences from myself you get bad apples in every community but some much worse than others.... |
Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
(Post 11977681)
And robbing washing off the clothes line
you be looking like a pusssssy arse gandu bro :D :p |
Originally Posted by Wurzel
(Post 11977595)
So you can stop a car on suspicion, you can stop and search a pedestrian on suspicion, you can walk upto a private house and knock on the door but you can't enter a pikey site on suspicion? Hmmmm interesting.
Same with a pedestrian, you have to have a reasonable belief that they will have a specific item on them. I can walk up to a private door a knock on it, but I can't enter it without a power to search. I can walk up to traveller site and knock on its door but I can't enter it without a power to search. Unless you are happy for the police to bend the rules when they want, but most of the public want police to stick to them. From the article, a microlight & drone was used to look into the site - I would suggest that a view from up high of a caravan roof would not be enough to prove that it was the stolen caravan. Not enough to obtain a search warrant in any case. Unless of course you are happy to go back to the good old 'Gene Hunt' days where a 'hunch' was enough suspicion to search - but don't complain when we turn up and search your house & car out of the blue for stolen gear, with no real justification. |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 11977615)
Always an excuse hasn't he/they?
Unless of course, you have additional search powers up your sleeve? |
Drugs?
And are you aware that caravans can and do have the cris number on the roof? Since when were pikey sites private property? They are mostly council owned...the carvans are private, yes, the site no. You are wriggling, but sorry, your cowardly lot are firmly on the hook for this one, LOL Get back behind your speed camera now...;) |
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