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jason7579 19 September 2017 04:50 PM

Gearbox and rear dif oil for standard newage
 
Sorry if I am going over old ground here but all of the threads I have seen are either very old or for modified or different models.


What is currently the ideal oil to use for the gearbox and rear dif on a completely standard 2004 WRX.


The local Subaru dealers have quoted for TX Multigear R 75W-90, but I cannot find this anywhere and don't know if its decent stuff.


Thanks :thumb:

Dubzy 19 September 2017 05:02 PM

If you want a decent quality oil then Motul 300 (75w90) is a popular choice and is what i use myself.

StrangelyBrown 19 September 2017 05:28 PM

Sorry to jump on your thread. Same question, also how many litres are required?

jason7579 19 September 2017 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Dubzy (Post 11966654)
If you want a decent quality oil then Motul 300 (75w90) is a popular choice and is what i use myself.

Thanks, I assume opie or asperformance are the usual places to get it.

If I have researched correctly I believe I am right in saying 3.5l for gearbox and 0.8 for rear dif? So 5l is plenty.

Lefty1 19 September 2017 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by jason7579 (Post 11966660)
Thanks, I assume opie or asperformance are the usual places to get it.

If I have researched correctly I believe I am right in saying 3.5l for gearbox and 0.8 for rear dif? So 5l is plenty.

Pretty sure it's 4.5l for the gearbox and 0.8l for the rear diff.
So you want 5l of motul gear 300 and 1 l of motul gear 300 LS.

The oil for the rear diff is different as it needs to be for an LSD

Dubzy 19 September 2017 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by jason7579 (Post 11966660)
Thanks, I assume opie or asperformance are the usual places to get it.

If I have researched correctly I believe I am right in saying 3.5l for gearbox and 0.8 for rear dif? So 5l is plenty.

Yes mate 5L will do the box and diff. if you order from Opie you get a 10% scoobynet discount.

Lsd version is not recommended for subaru open type diffs.

jason7579 19 September 2017 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by Lefty1 (Post 11966674)
Pretty sure it's 4.5l for the gearbox and 0.8l for the rear diff.
So you want 5l of motul gear 300 and 1 l of motul gear 300 LS.

The oil for the rear diff is different as it needs to be for an LSD

And the cost of the oil change has just gone up again :D

Thanks for letting me know, my first time replacing rear dif fluid.


Originally Posted by Dubzy (Post 11966680)
Yes mate 5L will do the box and diff. if you order from Opie you get a 10% scoobynet discount.

Lsd version is not recommended for subaru diffs.

And down again... Thanks for the info. A 10% discount sounds good to me, I have used Opie previously with the club discount for engine oil and filter.

Turbovin 19 September 2017 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by Dubzy (Post 11966680)
Yes mate 5L will do the box and diff. if you order from Opie you get a 10% scoobynet discount.

Lsd version is not recommended for subaru diffs.

How can a LSD oil not be recommended for the rear diff if it's plated?

Dubzy 19 September 2017 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Turbovin (Post 11966684)
How can a LSD oil not be recommended for the rear diff if it's plated?

As i understand it only diffs with clutches require the added lsd modifiers so no need to use the more expensive lsd oil for open type diffs.

Turbovin 19 September 2017 08:00 PM

Yes sorry read too fast, assumed it was a Sti :)

jason7579 19 September 2017 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by Turbovin (Post 11966689)
Yes sorry read too fast, assumed it was a Sti :)

Nope, just a poverty spec wrx 😉

cover99 19 September 2017 09:57 PM

Apologies for what could be seen as hijacking a thread. I replaced both the gearbox and rear diff oil with Motul Gear 300 75W90. I did not differentiate between the gearbox and DCCD rear diff - Its a 2006 hawkeye. Is this ok??????!!!

Dubzy 20 September 2017 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by cover99 (Post 11966718)
Apologies for what could be seen as hijacking a thread. I replaced both the gearbox and rear diff oil with Motul Gear 300 75W90. I did not differentiate between the gearbox and DCCD rear diff - Its a 2006 hawkeye. Is this ok??????!!!

The rear diff on the 2005-2006 sti models with dccd requires the LS version, i THINK the 2006-2007 has a torsen type diff which does not require the added friction modifiers. If in doubt I would check which diff type you have or just buy a litre of the ls version and replace it for peace of mind.

jason7579 20 September 2017 07:43 AM

Thanks all, I will be ordering 5 litres of Motul today.

And feel free to hijack away, the more information we can get in one place the better.

oilman 20 September 2017 08:50 AM

Yes, the Gear 300 is ideal for it and the capacities are 3.5L for a 5 speed box or 4.1L for the 6 speed and then 0.8L for the diff, so 5L will do either.

If you order from us, use the code SCOOBY for 10% off.

Cheers

Tim

jason7579 20 September 2017 10:28 AM

Just placed my order of the Gear 300 from Opie :) Once its delivered the fun can begin!!!

Thanks all for your input.

oilman 20 September 2017 11:01 AM

Thanks for the order.

Cheers

Tim

cover99 20 September 2017 11:10 AM

Hi Tim, does the hawkeye need Limited slip in the rear diff or is the gear 300 good for this application? Cheers

oilman 20 September 2017 11:36 AM

Hi

Yes, if it's an STi. Gear 300 is fine for the gearbox and diff if it's a WRX, but with a STi, the 300 is the best choice for the box, but in the diff you either want the 300LS or a SAE90 limited slip oil.

Cheers

Tim

Dubzy 20 September 2017 06:01 PM

After doing a little digging and for clarity for anybody reading back on the thread

2006 hawkeye sti models with gearbox code TY856WG7KA have a plated rear diff and require the ls version oil.
2007 hawkeye sti models with gearbox code TY856WG8KA have a torsen rear diff and does not require the ls version oil.

cover99 20 September 2017 08:28 PM

Hi Tim, what would be the best for the rear diff then as mine is a 2006 STI, should I go for Motul 90 PA or the 300LS.... or do you recommend anything else.

Many Thanks.

oilman 21 September 2017 09:02 AM

Hi

They can be a bit fussy, so although the 300LS is the best oil on paper, the 90PA can work better in the real world.

Cheers

Tim

cover99 21 September 2017 10:15 AM

Thanks Does the 2l 90 pa come with the pull out plastic spout to make oil addition easier into the diff?

oilman 21 September 2017 11:13 AM

Hi

Yes, it has a pull out spout.

Cheers

Tim

cover99 21 September 2017 04:30 PM

Thanks Tim that's me placed an order for the Motul 90PA based on your advice. Many Thanks. Steven

oilman 21 September 2017 05:14 PM

Hi Steven

Thanks for the order.

Cheers

Tim


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