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dpb 11 September 2017 10:05 AM

its a year

JackClark 11 September 2017 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by BlkKnight (Post 11964911)
What's the warranty length on an iPhone? It's two years on the S7/8.

I'm still getting OS updated on the wife's S5.

"The Apple Limited Warranty covers your product and Apple-branded accessories against manufacturing defects for one year from the date you bought them. Our warranty is in addition to rights provided by consumer law."

Pretty sure Electronics are covered for two years, seen replacements way beyond a year.

Tidgy 11 September 2017 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by JackClark (Post 11964957)
"The Apple Limited Warranty covers your product and Apple-branded accessories against manufacturing defects for one year from the date you bought them. Our warranty is in addition to rights provided by consumer law."

Pretty sure Electronics are covered for two years, seen replacements way beyond a year.

Depends what it is, phones are typically covered for the length of the contract you take out. If its unfixable they will provide you with one, although it may well be recon'd not new.

jonc 11 September 2017 02:14 PM

I might jump ship this year and go for the OnePlus 5, depends on how much Apple will charge for their new phones or whether there is a worthwhile reduction to their existing iPhones.

Tidgy 11 September 2017 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by jonc (Post 11964977)
I might jump ship this year and go for the OnePlus 5, depends on how much Apple will charge for their new phones or whether there is a worthwhile reduction to their existing iPhones.

heard $1000 mentioned :o

JackClark 11 September 2017 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 11964962)
Depends what it is, phones are typically covered for the length of the contract you take out. If its unfixable they will provide you with one, although it may well be recon'd not new.

Past a year you're definitely getting a recon unit from Apple, unless you really kiss butt.

JackClark 11 September 2017 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by jonc (Post 11964977)
I might jump ship this year and go for the OnePlus 5, depends on how much Apple will charge for their new phones or whether there is a worthwhile reduction to their existing iPhones.

My 6+ was £750 3 years ago, I'd expect to pay £100 more for similar.

jason7579 11 September 2017 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by jonc (Post 11964977)
I might jump ship this year and go for the OnePlus 5, depends on how much Apple will charge for their new phones or whether there is a worthwhile reduction to their existing iPhones.



I went from an iPhone to a OnePlus X, when this phone eventually gives up I'll be looking at getting another OnePlus. Not much I can fault it on.

Matty81 11 September 2017 04:10 PM

I've done exactly the same. I've got an iPhone 6 and got fed up with paying £54 a month. Went sim only and I'm paying £24 a month now with more internet browsing also, no brained !. And you're right, phones are not improving in my eyes.

Fishbowlhead 11 September 2017 04:28 PM

Looks like the "new" iPhone willl be the iPhone X, which will have the reported new features.

The iphone 8 is going to be a slight redesign on the 7 but with a glass back & wireless charging, and not much else changed.

dpb 11 September 2017 05:57 PM

I cant quite imagine how its even possible to pay 54 quid a month for an iPhone 6 / contract

JackClark 11 September 2017 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 11965046)
I cant quite imagine how its even possible to pay 54 quid a month for an iPhone 6 / contract

Let me help. Pick a telephone contract and make a mental note of it's monthly cost, round it up to make it easier, more of that later. Now take the cost of an iPhone divide it by how long you want to pay for it, make a note of that number, round it up a bit. Oops, you don't have any money!! What! OK, round up those numbers a bit more and get a loan. That's it really.

dpb 11 September 2017 06:26 PM

Welll, I was assuming he was on a 24 month contract inc phone

jonc 11 September 2017 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by JackClark (Post 11964993)
My 6+ was £750 3 years ago, I'd expect to pay £100 more for similar.

I paid around £500 for my 6, I can't justify forking out twice that for any phone. Let's see how much they reduce the 7/7+ when the 8 is announced. Judging by how much they "reduced" the 6s/6s+ I'm not keeping my hopes up for a decent reduction.

JackClark 11 September 2017 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by jonc (Post 11965075)
I paid around £500 for my 6, I can't justify forking out twice that for any phone. Let's see how much they reduce the 7/7+ when the 8 is announced. Judging by how much they "reduced" the 6s/6s+ I'm not keeping my hopes up for a decent reduction.

The price hasn't doubled since the 6, it was expensive too. They definitely won't start at £1000 but I won't be surprised if one goes over. Good memory isn't cheap.

dpb 11 September 2017 09:11 PM

What ???!

stevebt 12 September 2017 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by JackClark (Post 11965083)
The price hasn't doubled since the 6, it was expensive too. They definitely won't start at £1000 but I won't be surprised if one goes over. Good memory isn't cheap.


BBC news says the iPhone 8 will be the first phone to break the £1k mark. I definitely won't be getting one at that price.

jonc 12 September 2017 10:14 PM

Both the iPhone 8 and X were a bit of an anti-climax. The 8 being the same as the 7 of the previous year except for a slightly faster cpu and a glass back and the X same as the 8 except for the bigger screen and Face ID. I want a bigger screen phone (my eyes aren't what they use to be!) so considering the 8 plus 64GB but it's significantly heavier than the 7 plus and a lot more expensive.....

JackClark 12 September 2017 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by stevebt (Post 11965223)
BBC news says the iPhone 8 will be the first phone to break the £1k mark. I definitely won't be getting one at that price.

£999 for the 64GB, ouch. Not sure I can go over 1k. I'm pissed they don't have 128GB.

dpb 12 September 2017 11:13 PM

They probably sussed nobody would fork out 1500 for it !

andy97 13 September 2017 07:15 AM

I've reached my cost limit with phones of £600. My S8+ I bought in from Hong Kong is the higher spec with 6gb ram dual SIM/SD card. It has 128gb on board and further 256gb card. It lasts the whole day and has a beautiful screen an take great photos. Don't need anything more

neil-h 13 September 2017 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by JackClark (Post 11965277)
£999 for the 64GB, ouch. Not sure I can go over 1k. I'm pissed they don't have 128GB.

I really can't see how they justify it. There doesn't seem to be anything in the spec that makes it stand out as being worth that much more than the competition.

JackClark 13 September 2017 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by neil-h (Post 11965303)
I really can't see how they justify it. There doesn't seem to be anything in the spec that makes it stand out as being worth that much more than the competition.

It is hard. If Samsung came along and developed a CPU and GPU that were twice as powerful as the iPhone then it would be expensive, seen as ground breaking an due to the massive investment worth it. Apple produce something twice as fast as its own products which isn't so easy to grasp.

There's a lot of new tech, the face scanning blew me away, that level of innovation isn't cheap. You can't compare it to scanning a photo.

I can't get the 64GB, want the X and might just blow £1150 on it, blimey that hurts just saying but it does get more use than my Laptop.

Tidgy 13 September 2017 09:02 AM

have to say nothing mega special about the new one, face recognition is interesting, but seen various comments from press people who have actually used it saying it's not 100% effective when they tried it, price is just silly and thats the only two real highlights.

dpb 13 September 2017 09:10 AM

Are you saying new iPhone is 2x fast as S8 , using same components

Or 2x as fast as previous iPhone. :wonder:

Either way I think I'd suffer slightly less speed and take Andy's phone , at half the price !

JackClark 13 September 2017 09:14 AM

In certain areas the iPhone is more than 2x as fast as the S8, it's 2x as fast as the iPhone 7. Of course it doesn't have the same components, Apple don't license their mobile chipset.

The S8 is a great device and I'm sure you'll be happy with it as Andy is, but it doesn't run iOS so it's out.

ALi-B 13 September 2017 09:19 AM

Sigh, no sign of a smaller sized phone, according to Cnet, X is even larger! :(

Now wondering if I should just buy the retro Nokia or something like a Jelly 4G for the phone stuff, Ditch the iPhone and just use a iPad for all the other stuff. :wonder:

JackClark 13 September 2017 09:53 AM

The X is smaller than the 8+ and has a bigger screen. Perfect for you.

Beef 13 September 2017 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by JackClark (Post 11965305)
It is hard. If Samsung came along and developed a CPU and GPU that were twice as powerful as the iPhone then it would be expensive, seen as ground breaking an due to the massive investment worth it. Apple produce something twice as fast as its own products which isn't so easy to grasp.

There's a lot of new tech, the face scanning blew me away, that level of innovation isn't cheap. You can't compare it to scanning a photo.

I can't get the 64GB, want the X and might just blow £1150 on it, blimey that hurts just saying but it does get more use than my Laptop.

My problem with that kind of spend on a phone (any phone), is they just don't have the life expectancy that other similarly-priced gadgets have; phones get dropped, sat on, rained on, thrown in bags, bashed against stuff, etc etc, and unlike clamshell laptops don't have as much inherent protection. Getting 2 years out of a phone is considered good going, and if you tell someone you have a 3- or even 4-year old phone they ask if you've wrapped it in cotton wool and/or are just a luddite.

The other problem is the same that the desktop/laptop market hit a while back; most phones are already 'fast enough'. Having twice the horsepower in a phone doesn't mean much when you weren't using all you had anyway, so the idea of paying to get something faster doesn't sit well.

This is then all multiplied by the fact that phone improvements are reasonably 'incremental' these days; it's been a long time since something truly revolutionary happened, and spending a grand to get a slightly larger display or a slightly niftier fingerprint scanner isn't particularly attractive.

I considered the £500 for my Nexus 6p about as much as I was comfortable with, and felt the £700 for the Pixel XL was excessive. It's not that I can't afford it, I just find the idea of a grand on any phone deeply objectionable - if the Pixel 2 isn't reasonably priced, I'll probably skip two generations for once, an approach I'm unlikely to be alone in!

dpb 13 September 2017 10:14 AM

S'Marketing innit

if it wasn't outrageous price your apple customer wouldn't be happy , feel something was wrong ;)


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