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dpb 06 July 2017 08:34 AM

Boris promised a countrywide amnesty

Maybe you were not listening

BlkKnight 06 July 2017 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by David Lock (Post 11949849)
Discussing this with an old engineer pal of mine who is currently working in Abu Dhabi.
dl

Anyone from Coopers?

Dingdongler 06 July 2017 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 11951618)
Boris promised a countrywide amnesty

Maybe you were not listening



Shouldn't the law of the land be upheld? It's what stable countries are built upon.

Where do you draw the line? If there was somebody with a warrant for their arrest in that tower should they be pardoned?

dpb 06 July 2017 01:19 PM

Well that's rather different isn't it

David Lock 06 July 2017 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by BlkKnight (Post 11951627)
Anyone from Coopers?

No, not my pal. dl

Dingdongler 06 July 2017 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 11951674)
Well that's rather different isn't it


How is it different?

dpb 06 July 2017 04:08 PM

Are you suggesting that anyone 'illegal' automatically has an arrest warrant pending

Dingdongler 06 July 2017 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 11951714)
Are you suggesting that anyone 'illegal' automatically has an arrest warrant pending


I'm wondering whether you really understand the question tbh.

The principle is the same, in both cases the law has been broken, it doesn't matter that one criminal has been detected and the other hasn't.

If you want to provide amnesty to the individual who has broken the law by entering/staying in this country illegally then why not extend the same to the criminal who burgled your grannie's flat?

dpb 05 June 2018 02:11 AM

So 18 months "inquiry" for lots experts and lawyers to cash in to find what we already know and the buck passed back and forth till everybody gets off, except the poor blighters lives ruined
:wall:

ALi-B 05 June 2018 07:48 AM

The problem is there are too many people to blame:

Housing association for specifying incorrect materials (plastic Windows etc.) and not ensuring firedoors were fitted correctly (I believe the intumescent seals were wrong or missing -something often overlooked)
Celotex for selling flammable material not fit for purpose
Contractors for fitting flammable material.
Architects for designing a "rain screen" that had an air gap that acted like a chimney.

Etc.
Etc.

The media have also recently forgotten something:

Hotpoint: For knowingly selling fridges that catch fire in a fault condition (just like the tumble dryers).

This will take a few years to sort: In a ideal world the head honchoes of all the above should be in the dock in front of a jury on joint corperate manslaughter charges with equal measure of responsibility.

The current blame on the fire crews is a bit unfair as they had no idea that the fire safety of the building had been so catastrophically undermined.

dpb 05 June 2018 08:23 AM

If this was Japan someone in that tmo would have commit hari kari


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