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watty88 12 May 2017 11:32 AM

Map by Andrew Carr
 
Just want to post about how happy I am with Andrew Carr working his magic on my car, I've read posts about him been hard to get hold of etc etc. I've had no bother at all and communication has been spot on, he emailed my RR graphs out the next day along with some use information for my future plans.

My hatch has recently been built by Richard Henrys who have also been brilliant and the car made 450/420 on a std pos GT30.

Tidgy 12 May 2017 11:50 AM

is it still a 2.5?

ossett2k2 12 May 2017 11:51 AM

Makes a refreshing change to read a positive post about remapping,very nice power the car must pull really well :thumb:
Which RR did you use?
Also,always nice to see a nice graph if you don't mind sharing :)

watty88 12 May 2017 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 11939132)
is it still a 2.5?

yes still 2.5, hopefully future proofed it with the closed deck inserts, 14mm head studs etc

watty88 12 May 2017 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 11939133)
Makes a refreshing change to read a positive post about remapping,very nice power the car must pull really well :thumb:
Which RR did you use?
Also,always nice to see a nice graph if you don't mind sharing :)

yea that's why I thought I'd write something and give my personal feedback, thanks and yes feels very nice on the road although it is quite laggy it's helped along with the flat foot shifting.

Used the RR over at teg sport carnforth, not sure if it's Andrews or Tegs actually. Yes I will try upload the graph not uploaded a pic before so bare with.

watty88 12 May 2017 12:01 PM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...b2ae0110bf.jpgThat was easier than I thought actually, my first RR printout any thoughts?

Nino87 12 May 2017 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by watty88 (Post 11939131)
Just want to post about how happy I am with Andrew Carr working his magic on my car, I've read posts about him been hard to get hold of etc etc. I've had no bother at all and communication has been spot on, he emailed my RR graphs out the next day along with some use information for my future plans.

My hatch has recently been built by Richard Henrys who have also been brilliant and the car made 450/420 on a std pos GT30.

Where did you get the map done? Was it at Richard Henrys?

watty88 12 May 2017 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Nino87 (Post 11939141)
Where did you get the map done? Was it at Richard Henrys?

no see above mate, went over to teg sport carnforth. Andrew carr does do road maps at Richard Henrys though every other Tuesday.

Nino87 12 May 2017 12:11 PM

Cheers dude. Completely bypassed that comment. Eyes not working today.
Don't fancy a Road tune. Can't get the map 100% imo

Jay Cartay 12 May 2017 12:16 PM

Why doesn't he do ECUTek anymore, out of interest?

watty88 12 May 2017 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Nino87 (Post 11939144)
Cheers dude. Completely bypassed that comment. Eyes not working today.
Don't fancy a Road tune. Can't get the map 100% imo

no problem, can't blame you it's Friday! Yes I have to agree with the road maps not been 100%

watty88 12 May 2017 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Jay Cartay (Post 11939147)
Why doesn't he do ECUTek anymore, out of interest?

Not sure Jay, he did mention that but noting about why he stopped. I asked about ecus and he mentioned something labs might of been Ecu labs? Must be what he's started doing.

ossett2k2 12 May 2017 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by watty88 (Post 11939148)
no problem, can't blame you it's Friday! Yes I have to agree with the road maps not been 100%

I think both have their place,was it signed off with a final road map after the RR sesh? Not sure how much it matters or if just RR is ok?

watty88 12 May 2017 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 11939150)
I think both have their place,was it signed off with a final road map after the RR sesh? Not sure how much it matters or if just RR is ok?

No he did five runs on the RR which I was surprised with, so plenty of tweaking going on. He had previously road mapped it only a month before to get me up and running as I was too impatient following the lonngg 1000m run in.

The road map showed 430/390 on the RR first run so it shows how much more he got out of it on the RR.

Tidgy 12 May 2017 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by watty88 (Post 11939139)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...b2ae0110bf.jpgThat was easier than I thought actually, my first RR printout any thoughts?

reason i asked about the 2.5 is torque seems pretty low and as you said pretty laggy. Typically you'd expect torque to be higher than the bhp on a 2.5.

As long as its running safe afr and not detting its all good.

watty88 12 May 2017 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 11939164)
reason i asked about the 2.5 is torque seems pretty low and as you said pretty laggy. Typically you'd expect torque to be higher than the bhp on a 2.5.

As long as its running safe afr and not detting its all good.

Thanks appreciate the feedback bud, I think the reason the torque is low is because of the turbo I have, the exhaust housing is very big and due the the size of the turbo that's why it spools up so late. Sorry if that don't make complete sense, I'm still learning my stuff as I go along and can't remember everything he told me.

He said for the torque to be higher and as expected, the turbo needs to be spooling up before 4K revs.

Would you be able to explain safe afr and detting briefly?

Tidgy 12 May 2017 02:18 PM

2 Attachment(s)
power is nothing if the engine is pushed to far that it self destructs, AFR = Air fuel ratio, aka the air and fuel going into the engine needs to be balanced. Det is when the fuel ignites or burns at the wrong time so damages the engine.

Have a read,

http://www.contactmagazine.com/Issue...ineBasics.html

Basicly AFR needs to be right and det is bad.

Normaly you get a power/torque graph and a boost afr,

Attachment 24585

Attachment 24586

watty88 12 May 2017 02:35 PM

Thanks tidgy I will have a good read later.

The other graphs I received are the before and after as well as a lmbda graph.

Tidgy 12 May 2017 02:50 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air%E2...o_.28.CE.BB.29

have a read, lambda is the AFR reading :)

watty88 12 May 2017 03:06 PM

Ah right ha ok then I'm learning a lot and have some more geeking to do later then thanks. I'll put that graph on see what you think. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...abd407c3e9.jpg

Tidgy 12 May 2017 03:18 PM

looks pretty much spot on,

http://www.wallaceracing.com/air-fuel-lambda.php

nice converter

Jay Cartay 12 May 2017 05:13 PM

Mine was awful (not by Andy) and now I daren't drive my Blob until it's mapped again lol.

Tidgy 12 May 2017 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Jay Cartay (Post 11939230)
Mine was awful (not by Andy) and now I daren't drive my Blob until it's mapped again lol.

First port of call go back to the mapper and complain.

nortonscooby 12 May 2017 07:12 PM

Mr carr has tweaked my map today at m.b developments. Great mapper and car feels great

joe v3sti 12 May 2017 11:23 PM


Originally Posted by Jay Cartay (Post 11939230)
Mine was awful (not by Andy) and now I daren't drive my Blob until it's mapped again lol.

Although Andrew did not map it have you asked him to remap it?

Jay Cartay 13 May 2017 01:29 PM

It's not ready yet mate. Doing some upgrades first.

Tidgy my "mapper" isn't going anymore for some strange reason :D

S204Darren 13 May 2017 06:16 PM

Picked up a standard Spec C hawkeye today from MattyB's that Andy had mapped and I've got to say it's a great map, pulls hard in every gear. Feels punchy and fast, well done Mr Carr.

hedgecutter 13 May 2017 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by S204Darren (Post 11939441)
Picked up a standard Spec C hawkeye today from MattyB's that Andy had mapped and I've got to say it's a great map, pulls hard in every gear. Feels punchy and fast, well done Mr Carr.

You must have landed the spec c hatch by now? How many cars do you need?!!

S204Darren 14 May 2017 07:53 AM

The Spec C was a car I imported for someone and needed mapping for U.K fuel. Apparently Paul Walker said you can never have enough cars so I'm living life by those rules. Lol

watty88 19 May 2017 09:34 AM

Can anybody help me understand boost pressure please, so since the remap I've had a little issue with the car overboosting and going into limp mode. After restarting the car a few times the fault resets itself.

I have ordered a Perrin 4 bar map sensor this morning and meeting the mapper on Tuesday for a tweak and for him to hopefully fit the sensor and map it in.

Does this mean I could run more than 1.6bar boost with the new sensor now? From what I've read the standard senor os maxed out at 24psi which is about 1.6bar (I think)

Thanks


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