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Jason Dockree 26 April 2017 09:17 AM

are these any good?
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2819443855...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

ossett2k2 26 April 2017 10:00 AM

£179 Fleabay specials,,,I would guess NO

Just a wild guess mind :)

JDM_Stig 26 April 2017 10:29 AM

at that price they have to be worth a punt ?

Jason Dockree 26 April 2017 10:48 AM

Well I have brought some and we will see what they are like as they are a hap import with looks like a warehouse in the UK

TECHNOPUG 26 April 2017 11:12 AM

"hap import"?

It clearly states that it's a Chinese company:

Business seller information
DEGUI LIAO
DEGUI LIAO
2-1, No 40 YueXingCun, BeiBei Qu
400700 ChongQing
China

Buy cheap, buy twice springs to mind. Still, free sun shade!

Nino87 26 April 2017 11:51 AM

I've got a set on my bug. My honest opinion they are hard for daily use. If you live anywhere that has speed bumps or poor roads then you'll regret having them.

Where I live some of the new smooth roads are brilliant for these. Car is planted and feels really good on them. I then go to the gf's area and it's shocking. I'm now looking at getting some lowering springs instead.

JDM_Stig 26 April 2017 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Nino87 (Post 11935821)
I've got a set on my bug. My honest opinion they are hard for daily use. If you live anywhere that has speed bumps or poor roads then you'll regret having them.

Where I live some of the new smooth roads are brilliant for these. Car is planted and feels really good on them. I then go to the gf's area and it's shocking. I'm now looking at getting some lowering springs instead.

Sounds like a BC Coilover then . . these are much cheaper.

sunny1989 26 April 2017 02:10 PM

My guesses are they're going to be pretty tragic at that price... and will probably make your car handle even worse on our roads..

Nezscooby 26 April 2017 10:24 PM

For £178.99 hmm why not try them ^^ its cheap ^^

bustaMOVEs 26 April 2017 10:26 PM

I've heard they the dogs bollocks, when you go over a speed bump, they explode and you will then become a Subaru terrorist on the BBC news:)

Jason Dockree 26 April 2017 10:47 PM

Nino87 have u used the softest damping

Nino87 27 April 2017 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Jason Dockree (Post 11935965)
Nino87 have u used the softest damping

Mine didn't come with that option but it is the same brand. Got them because I needed rear shockers and these were the cheaper option.

These with the adjustable dampers might be better but the ones I've got are very hard. They'd be perfect for smooth track use to be honest as they do handle really good.

JDM_Stig 27 April 2017 09:56 AM

When you get them and take them out the box you should get a good idea of the build quality, if they really crap just dont fit them.

Nino87 27 April 2017 10:03 AM

They feel absolutely fine. They felt like the Apex coilovers that I had on a previous car.
Personally knowing what I know now I'd just get lowering springs but that's only because of what roads I drive on.

TECHNOPUG 27 April 2017 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by JDM_Stig (Post 11935826)
Sounds like a BC Coilover then . . these are much cheaper.


Originally Posted by Nino87 (Post 11936007)
Mine didn't come with that option but it is the same brand. Got them because I needed rear shockers and these were the cheaper option.

These with the adjustable dampers might be better but the ones I've got are very hard. They'd be perfect for smooth track use to be honest as they do handle really good.

Any shock will be good on a smooth track - they aren't having to do any work! If all roads were like billiard tables, you wouldn't even need shock absorbers.

Nino87 27 April 2017 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by TECHNOPUG (Post 11936025)
Any shock will be good on a smooth track - they aren't having to do any work! If all roads were like billiard tables, you wouldn't even need shock absorbers.

Dude I mean even if the road is a little bouncy then these are fine.
Just any massive drops or rises like potholes or say when they resurface the road and either drop or raise it then you notice the hard ride.

TECHNOPUG 27 April 2017 11:41 AM

I suppose that's the limitation in damper tech being employed. I guess if you have no R&D to pay for and you can simply copy someone else's design, then it's probably feasible to remanufacture a set of coilovers in China for very little. There isnt much too them. But the internal damping technology and quality of material will ultimately determine how well they perform (and over how wide a range) and also their longevity.

I had to cut up some KYB shocks the other week and their construction is hardly rocket science. Would be easy to replicate. And springs aren't exactly cutting-edge technology either.

Tidgy 27 April 2017 04:32 PM

they will be copies of another brand, made with cheaper materials and cheaper manufacturing methods.

Bit like designing something to work as 10mm steel plate and using 10mm of wood, after a coat of paint looks the same, cheaper to buy, but wont do the same job ;)

Jason Dockree 27 April 2017 04:40 PM

well got them today and look very nice so not sure to keep them or not as these ones have the adjustable damping but still think the ride will be hard as of the springs

JDM_Stig 27 April 2017 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 11936103)
they will be copies of another brand, made with cheaper materials and cheaper manufacturing methods.

Bit like designing something to work as 10mm steel plate and using 10mm of wood, after a coat of paint looks the same, cheaper to buy, but wont do the same job ;)

Really, they are made of wood, jeez that year off didnt do you much good, don`t tell me, the only place that anyone should ever buy parts from are Scabby clinic . . . :idea:

RAGGY DOO 27 April 2017 05:14 PM

Think tidgy is onto something here how can they be any good at 150 pound common sense

Pross 27 April 2017 05:20 PM

45 quid a corner, they must be awesome. Maybe if it was your gfs corsa ;)

ossett2k2 27 April 2017 05:31 PM

Was the sun shade any good?

Tidgy 27 April 2017 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by JDM_Stig (Post 11936106)
Really, they are made of wood, jeez that year off didnt do you much good, don`t tell me, the only place that anyone should ever buy parts from are Scabby clinic . . . :idea:

:Whatever_:Whatever_:Whatever_

Nino87 28 April 2017 08:52 AM

Why are people complaining about the price?
If they were £500 would you buy them?
Don't get me wrong they are worth a punt if you need replace a standard part but for daily use I'd go with lowering springs.

Tidgy 28 April 2017 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by Nino87 (Post 11936232)
Why are people complaining about the price?
If they were £500 would you buy them?
Don't get me wrong they are worth a punt if you need replace a standard part but for daily use I'd go with lowering springs.

because they are way cheaper than typical reputable brands.

Bob99 28 April 2017 10:43 AM

Just looked at these, the dampers are not the reason for a hard ride, it is the shock absorber spring rate at 10kg is far too hard, normal spring rate would be about 6kg.

Jason Dockree 28 April 2017 08:15 PM

So any of fitting normal spring to them


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