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tony de wonderful 02 April 2017 09:50 PM

Dangerous Dogs (again).
 
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....bulky-12835128

They need to start banning more of these dogs and coming down harder on owners. It's always a certain type seems to own them to. :nono: I find these dogs intimidating even when they are well behaved and don't like them being on the street.

TheAngryFerret 02 April 2017 10:26 PM

Its owners not breeds that are the problem, you're still more likely to get bitten by a labrador. But no one is crying out to ban them. Most dog owners shouldnt have one.

tony de wonderful 02 April 2017 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by TheAngryFerret (Post 11930450)
Its owners not breeds that are the problem, you're still more likely to get bitten by a labrador. But no one is crying out to ban them. Most dog owners shouldnt have one.

I'm sorry but breeds are a problem since some breeds are bred to have extreme bite strength, musculature and pain tolerance. It's a total myth that owners are the problem. You wouldn't let some have a pet saltwater croc walk down the high street.

TheAngryFerret 02 April 2017 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 11930451)
I'm sorry but breeds are a problem since some breeds are bred to have extreme bite strength, musculature and pain tolerance. It's a total myth that owners are the problem. You wouldn't let some have a pet saltwater croc walk down the high street.

Thats just pointing out the potential of what a certain breed could do. In that case any dog over 20kg could kill an adult. Its the idiots that own them, in years gone by they just wouldnt have owned a dog or had some little terrier instead, which when equally untrained wasn't capable of the same degree of power or damage. 20 years ago there was one bull terrier breed dog in my local area and now its flooded. Like i said labradors top the chart of dog attacks on humans.

dpb 02 April 2017 10:57 PM

It's one the most common dogs too !
So hardly relevant info

60+ percent deaths come from pit bull type and rotties alone

TheAngryFerret 02 April 2017 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 11930454)
It's one the most common dogs too !
So hardly relevant info

60+ percent deaths come from pit bull type and rotties alone

There's around half a million labs in the uk. With your 'pitbull type' description that will equate to far more than that. Let alone adding Rotties into it as well.

tony de wonderful 02 April 2017 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by TheAngryFerret (Post 11930452)
Thats just pointing out the potential of what a certain breed could do. In that case any dog over 20kg could kill an adult. Its the idiots that own them, in years gone by they just wouldnt have owned a dog or had some little terrier instead, which when equally untrained wasn't capable of the same degree of power or damage. 20 years ago there was one bull terrier breed dog in my local area and now its flooded. Like i said labradors top the chart of dog attacks on humans.

Of course potential matters. Risk = probability x consequence.

scoobypaul_temp 02 April 2017 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 11930461)
Of course potential matters. Risk = probability x consequence.

So how is probability increased by the physical attributes you quoted earlier?

It isn't :thumb: Any dog with an irresponsible owner is dangerous, regardless of breed.

Do you actually think a "staffy/rotty/mastiff/whatever" in the right hands, is more dangerous than a "lab/spaniel/Poodle" in the wrong hands?

tony de wonderful 02 April 2017 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by scoobypaul_temp (Post 11930463)
So how is probability increased by the physical attributes you quoted earlier?

It isn't :thumb: Any dog with an irresponsible owner is dangerous, regardless of breed.

Do you actually think a "staffy/rotty/mastiff/whatever" in the right hands, is more dangerous than a "lab/spaniel/Poodle" in the wrong hands?

Consequence is worse for powerful breeds is my point; they simpily can do more damage and some breeds give a human no hope of living.

scoobypaul_temp 02 April 2017 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 11930464)
Consequence is worse for powerful breeds is my point; they simpily can do more damage and some breeds give a human no hope of living.

Yes, but probability is reduced with a responsible owner. (Of any dog)

Answer the question

tony de wonderful 03 April 2017 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by scoobypaul_temp (Post 11930466)
Yes, but probability is reduced with a responsible owner. (Of any dog)

Answer the question

The risk is still higher (all things being equal).

scoobypaul_temp 03 April 2017 12:21 AM


Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 11930470)
The risk is still higher (all things being equal).

Sound reasoning, you would rather be with a lab that has been trained to be aggressive, than a staffy that hasn't. :cuckoo:

Paben 03 April 2017 12:34 AM

I suspect that in not too many years to come dogs of any breed in civilian hands will be banned. Dog ownership will be viewed in the same light as we regard the ownership of pet bears now, something so dangerous as to be beyond contemplation. Although actual deaths by dog are relatively few, last year over 7,500 people required hospital treatment following dog attacks.

pimmo2000 03 April 2017 08:03 AM

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urban 03 April 2017 09:36 AM

I still think there's something about particular types of dogs.
Yes, all dogs have the potential to seriously harm humans, but rottweiler's are rather large dogs, and you don't stand much of a chance against one.
I'd much rather face an angry labrador than an angry rottweiler.
Rottweiler's also appear to have a particular type of owner on the other end of the lead.

dpb 03 April 2017 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by TheAngryFerret (Post 11930450)
Its owners not breeds that are the problem, you're still more likely to get bitten by a labrador. But no one is crying out to ban them. Most dog owners shouldnt have one.

So put down dangerous owners then

Devildog 03 April 2017 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 11930454)
It's one the most common dogs too !
So hardly relevant info

60+ percent deaths come from pit bull type and rotties alone

Proof or feck off back under that rock you crawl from sometimes :thumb:

Devildog 03 April 2017 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by Paben (Post 11930472)
I suspect that in not too many years to come dogs of any breed in civilian hands will be banned. Dog ownership will be viewed in the same light as we regard the ownership of pet bears now, something so dangerous as to be beyond contemplation. Although actual deaths by dog are relatively few, last year over 7,500 people required hospital treatment following dog attacks.

You've been saying that for years. Its not happened yet, and its not likely to. Perhaps you should join Duncan under that rock :thumb:

Devildog 03 April 2017 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 11930443)
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....bulky-12835128

They need to start banning more of these dogs and coming down harder on owners. It's always a certain type seems to own them to. :nono: I find these dogs intimidating even when they are well behaved and don't like them being on the street.


Watched the video. That ar5ehole "owner" needs to be shot. Those dogs are excited and experiencing high levels of dog arousal - due to their owner's behaviors. Its no surprise they bit two people but its 100% that pr!cks fault.

PS - I'd rather an experienced zookeper walk a bic croc down the highstreet than some retard with a jack russell :thumb:

dpb 03 April 2017 05:41 PM

you wouldn't if it got hold your ankle , and they can do 40mph !

ZANY 03 April 2017 06:38 PM

Why blame animals when it's humans that are to blame you wouldn't blame a gun or a knife or a bomb but the owner who is responsible

Just my 20p's worth

here's conny my little princess


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...b2cf0d2226.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...1e4e5ca2f9.jpg

joz8968 03 April 2017 06:44 PM

^^^ Cute as hell! :luvlove:

Conny - not you, Zany! :lol1:

Paben 03 April 2017 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by ZANY (Post 11930620)
Why blame animals when it's humans that are to blame you wouldn't blame a gun or a knife or a bomb but the owner who is responsible

Just my 20p's worth

here's conny my little princess


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...b2cf0d2226.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...1e4e5ca2f9.jpg


Ready to tear your throat out!

RAGGY DOO 03 April 2017 07:07 PM

different dogs have different traits bred into them
Even with the best owners those instincts are still there
I've had working lurchers my whole life they do a job in the field and are a great pet super cool with kids

PT82 03 April 2017 08:09 PM

I have a Boxer. The breed was originally bred for fighting. Now they are widely known as one of the best family dog breeds about.
It's hilarious when walking how many dogs bark like hell at her. She just looks at them and walks straight past. Been around kids and other dogs day in day out her entire life. Throughout her life she has mothered many litters of abandoned kittens and puppies due to the (ex) other half working at a vets.

Gotta have a pic:


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...e4b6127bf1.jpg



https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...07cdd8d19f.jpg

joz8968 03 April 2017 08:17 PM

"What doing?!"

PT82 03 April 2017 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by joz8968 (Post 11930652)
"What doing?!"

Eh?

joz8968 03 April 2017 08:22 PM

lol :lol1:


https://youtu.be/_fMjYekHpYE

https://youtu.be/fwwradkJSMg

You must've seen the ads, surely?! :wonder:

PT82 03 April 2017 08:27 PM

:lol1::lol1:

Last time she asked that I was eating dinner. She ended up having most!!


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...cd651eaa3d.jpg

RAGGY DOO 03 April 2017 08:27 PM

Beautiful dog pt82 but a boxer couldn't fight its way out of a wet tea bag lol not the cleverest of things either but beautiful to look at


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